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Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
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23 Jan 2024 12:56 #253692
by Snakeeyes89
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Hello guys
I would appreciate some help
I have a Suzuki Jimny 2011 model (M13a) with manual gear box, I had it for 10 years with minimal problems , recently I noticed the car started to hesitate and stutter during acceleration (the RPM goes up to 3000 and more for 1-2 sec then go back down to normal and the car accelerates normally afterwards)
More recently the problem became worse, now the acceleration is more sluggish, the RPM goes way high (3000-4000) for the car to start responding to acceleration (even that takes a delay of few seconds on high RPM before responding), moving from full stop is difficult and slow , and even reverse has the same problem of barely moving so slow.
Here what I did so far:
1. I changed the spark plugs
2. I inspected the spark plugs boots and wires and found that one of them had a melting wire , so I changed both spark plugs boots and wires
3- I quickly tested the coils , I removed the wire connected to first coil when the car is running and immediately the engine started vibrating , which return to normal when the wire is plugs back, I did the same process for testing the second coil, both seems to be functional using this method.
4- I changed the air intake filter with a new one, the old was pretty dirty.
5- I used fuel injectors cleaner in the tank and followed the instructions on the product
6- I removed the air intake house and cleaned the throttle body with the car off, using a carburetor cleaner then drove the car for a while
Non of these seemed to work, it actually got worse after doing all of these
I'm thinking it might be a blocked exhaust system / catalytic converter?
or could it be clogged fuel filter in the fuel pump assembly? or weak fuel pressure produced by the fuel pump?
Could it be the ignition coils are functioning but not properly?
Any suggestions, what can I do next, the car is becoming undrivable
Thanks in advance
I would appreciate some help
I have a Suzuki Jimny 2011 model (M13a) with manual gear box, I had it for 10 years with minimal problems , recently I noticed the car started to hesitate and stutter during acceleration (the RPM goes up to 3000 and more for 1-2 sec then go back down to normal and the car accelerates normally afterwards)
More recently the problem became worse, now the acceleration is more sluggish, the RPM goes way high (3000-4000) for the car to start responding to acceleration (even that takes a delay of few seconds on high RPM before responding), moving from full stop is difficult and slow , and even reverse has the same problem of barely moving so slow.
Here what I did so far:
1. I changed the spark plugs
2. I inspected the spark plugs boots and wires and found that one of them had a melting wire , so I changed both spark plugs boots and wires
3- I quickly tested the coils , I removed the wire connected to first coil when the car is running and immediately the engine started vibrating , which return to normal when the wire is plugs back, I did the same process for testing the second coil, both seems to be functional using this method.
4- I changed the air intake filter with a new one, the old was pretty dirty.
5- I used fuel injectors cleaner in the tank and followed the instructions on the product
6- I removed the air intake house and cleaned the throttle body with the car off, using a carburetor cleaner then drove the car for a while
Non of these seemed to work, it actually got worse after doing all of these
I'm thinking it might be a blocked exhaust system / catalytic converter?
or could it be clogged fuel filter in the fuel pump assembly? or weak fuel pressure produced by the fuel pump?
Could it be the ignition coils are functioning but not properly?
Any suggestions, what can I do next, the car is becoming undrivable
Thanks in advance
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23 Jan 2024 14:51 #253693
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
For the revs to go up without the car moving accordingly it suggests the clutch has gone.
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23 Jan 2024 15:00 #253694
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But it is shifting properly into gears when moving , and also engages and disengages the clutch when moving or stoping
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23 Jan 2024 16:30 #253695
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
Yes it will do, but it is clearly slipping when a load is applied. It's the only way the engine revs could rise without the car accelerating.
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23 Jan 2024 16:31 #253696
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Replied by rogerzilla on topic Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
It will do that. Disengaging is not a problem, so you can change gear, but full engagement is.
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23 Jan 2024 17:54 #253698
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
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Replied by DrRobin on topic Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
Definately clutch slipping, it will be worse in high gears where the load is more. Do you get a squeal or screeching sound when it happens?
I am not sure how many miles your Jimny has done, but a slipping clutch only goes one way, it gets worse, as the clutch slips it creates even more wear so the worse it gets with every slip.
If it is just slipping with no unusual noises it will just continue to get worse until the car won't go anywhere or at least only very slowly. If you have a variety of noises then it is likely it will get very worse all of a sudden as the clutch fails, then you will need a tow truck.
Robin
I am not sure how many miles your Jimny has done, but a slipping clutch only goes one way, it gets worse, as the clutch slips it creates even more wear so the worse it gets with every slip.
If it is just slipping with no unusual noises it will just continue to get worse until the car won't go anywhere or at least only very slowly. If you have a variety of noises then it is likely it will get very worse all of a sudden as the clutch fails, then you will need a tow truck.
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2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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23 Jan 2024 20:00 #253699
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I can't hear any unusual noises or squealing sound, and right now actually the problem is worse when moving from a full stop (like when first start moving out of the garage , or moving after stopping at a traffic light) , I press on the gas paddle, the rev goes up to 3-4k , the car waits for 3-4 secs before starting to slowly rolling slowly , then when it gets going it starts to build speed, then after shifting to 2nd gear it also takes a bit to accelerate , but less troubling than the 1st gear, the problem is less noticable at high gears actually (4th and 5th) , but the revs are still more than the usual by a 1k at least, but I can hit good speeds once it gets into 4th and 5th gear (90-100+ km/hr)
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23 Jan 2024 20:08 #253700
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So your suggestion is just to check the clutch? I was thinking to do a check and maintenance at a shop for the less expensive repairs like checking the cleanings the ignition coils, checking the spark plugs , catalytic converter checking and cleaning, throttle body etc
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23 Jan 2024 20:49 #253702
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If revs increase out of proportion to road speed, either the clutch is slipping, the wheels are spinning, or you have an auto Jimny! There is no other way for that to happen.
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23 Jan 2024 20:56 #253703
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Thank you very much, I will take it to a mechanic the next thing in the morning, you've been so helpful, God bless you all, I'll keep you updated
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23 Jan 2024 21:21 #253704
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It's a routine job. Good luck.
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23 Jan 2024 22:19 - 23 Jan 2024 22:25 #253707
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Poor acceleration and lack of power in Jimmy
Put the parking brake fully on.
Put the car in third gear and give it some revs and release the clutch as you give it full throttle.
Engine should die now.
If the car moves, the parking brake is too weak.
If it revs up without dying the clutch is worn out.
Do not repeat the test as it could burn the remaining clutch plates, overheat or damage other componenents, and make the car not run at all.
Put the car in third gear and give it some revs and release the clutch as you give it full throttle.
Engine should die now.
If the car moves, the parking brake is too weak.
If it revs up without dying the clutch is worn out.
Do not repeat the test as it could burn the remaining clutch plates, overheat or damage other componenents, and make the car not run at all.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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