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Spinning backwheels in 4-WD

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20 Nov 2023 21:22 #252247 by Ulltand
Hello everyone!
I used my "new" Jimny DDIS to pull out the boat from sea before winter this weekend. It worked but was not easy on a muddy  shore. We noticed the backwheel spinning from time to time but not frontwheels. Is that to expect to happen in 4-whell drive (not L) with the Jimny gear construction? Just wont to rule out there is fault in transmisson.
Thansk for listening and take care
Ulltand
 

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20 Nov 2023 23:43 #252251 by DrRobin
Replied by DrRobin on topic Spinning backwheels in 4-WD
You have more weight over the front wheels, so they might be less likely to spin, but in general no, you wouldn’t expect only the back to let go and not the front. It might also depend on the surface, if the front wheels were on the slip way and the back on sand?

Do you know if the front wheels were been driven? One way to tell is put the car in 4wd, jack a front wheel up and see if it is locked or spins by hand. Then shift to 2wd and the front should spin by hand.

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21 Nov 2023 09:36 #252260 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Spinning backwheels in 4-WD
In 4wd a standard Jimny should spin at least one wheel on each axle.
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21 Nov 2023 09:53 #252261 by facade
Replied by facade on topic Spinning backwheels in 4-WD
In 4wd the Jimny simply locks the two axles together (which is why you shouldn't use 4wd on grippy surfaces), so it isn't possible to spin the back wheels but not the front.

However, they tend to spin diagonally opposite wheels, so that an observer standing to one side thinks that just the back (or front) is spinning. (e.g. Clarkson claiming that Sir James May had a 3wd Sierra in that special)

Double however, the front hubs sometimes don't lock, or a CV has broken from being driven excessively in 4wd on tarmac, so as DrRobin suggests, check everything is ok by jacking up one front wheel, engaging 4wd with the engine running and trying to rotate the lifted wheel by hand- if everything is ok it won't turn.

Dipping a Jimny in salt water is another issue......

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)
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23 Nov 2023 07:48 #252317 by Ulltand
Replied by Ulltand on topic Spinning backwheels in 4-WD
Thaks for input!

Took the car to a shop and they concluded that it not working, the front wheels are not engaged i 4-wheel mode. :(

Anyway there is sound klick when pressing the 4-W button and the indication light comes on after a few seconds. Could that narrow down possible faults?

And I have been told elsewhere that you need to drive the car a few meters in order to lock the system. Is that correct?

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23 Nov 2023 08:53 #252318 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Spinning backwheels in 4-WD
4wd should engage almost immediately, within 1/20th rotation of a tyre.
You should hear a clunk from each of the front hubs when you engage 4wd. Try it with the windows down. The engine needs to be running. If you don't hear this the most likely issue is one of the hubs sticking, which is an easy 20 minute fix.
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