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Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
21 Jan 2023 23:07 #247075
by Grizzlie
Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points was created by Grizzlie
I'm debating whether to go with a Jimny OEM quick detachable towbar/hook or to go with a square hitch receiver. My thinking is to be able to use hitch receiver recovery points.
Yay or nay? Do the rear factory recovery points suffice? Did you rather 'upgrade' to APIO or similar recovery points? Jimny is the Gen4
I don't expect to go drowning the car in swamps, but can realistically see the need to be pulled/winched out of a snowbank (for example)
*The hitch/towbar would be used for small trailer pulling as well [in case that info is necessary]
Yay or nay? Do the rear factory recovery points suffice? Did you rather 'upgrade' to APIO or similar recovery points? Jimny is the Gen4
I don't expect to go drowning the car in swamps, but can realistically see the need to be pulled/winched out of a snowbank (for example)
*The hitch/towbar would be used for small trailer pulling as well [in case that info is necessary]
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22 Jan 2023 06:45 #247077
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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Replied by Lambert on topic Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
The factory points are tie down points designed for primarily downward pressure. They're completely inadequate for any recovery that is more than towing a disabled vehicle to a place of safety on a sealed surface. Any type of recovery requiring the vehicle to be dislodged be it mud, snow or rocks incurres a significant risk of ripping the points off the car. This applies front and rear. Using the tow bar for gentle recovery using either a winch or a KERR is possible but using a snatch strap is again going to increase the risk of damage. Using a bridle onto dedicated after market recovery points is best but even then using a snatch strap is potentially asking quite a lot of the recovery points. All that being said I have quite successfully used my towbar as an attachment for someone with a winch to anchor to to self recover and experienced no issues whatsoever. If you are competent and gentle it's possible to do some quite impressive things that a novice or rough git would otherwise cause damage doing.
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22 Jan 2023 19:03 - 22 Jan 2023 19:18 #247095
by Grizzlie
Replied by Grizzlie on topic Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
When you mean towbar, do you mean an attachment into the bar/hitch receiver? Or looped around the bar that goes across the vehicle? Or, dare I say, the swan neck/ball itself?*
*I know, using the actual ball as a recovery point is highly NOT recommended because of the risk of it ripping off and becoming a projectile. Thought I'd put this disclaimer in here in case someone got ideas.
*I know, using the actual ball as a recovery point is highly NOT recommended because of the risk of it ripping off and becoming a projectile. Thought I'd put this disclaimer in here in case someone got ideas.
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22 Jan 2023 19:21 #247096
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
If I'm out at a play site I have a piece of solid that replaces ball mounting flange bolted to the bar that takes a bow shackle. On the farm where it's at my own risk I just loop around the back of the bolt flange. But that's because it's me that is the only one likely to get hurt/have to fix anything I destroy. Time and place and all that.
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22 Jan 2023 22:39 #247102
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
I have heard all the warnings on not using the tow ball for recovery. Some play sites and or events do have rules now preventing the use of the tow ball. However I have used mine alot and I think that there is a slight difference between a Chevy or a dodge twice our weight, and difference between a static and a dynamic rope or wire or chains. And certainly if you do a "full send" or a nice yank.
I would however not recommend for anyone to do any recovery without taking all and any safety considerations.
I have even used the original "tow point" alot and still it hangs on. But only for small jobs.
I am planning to make proper tow points both front and rear. On the rear it would be based on the tow bar, but on the front due to the Norwegian laws nothing can poke out unless it is approved, so I would be making a soft something from a strap bolted to the frame or something.
Me doing recovery at 4.00 minutes in:
I would not recommend to do it like this!
I would however not recommend for anyone to do any recovery without taking all and any safety considerations.
I have even used the original "tow point" alot and still it hangs on. But only for small jobs.
I am planning to make proper tow points both front and rear. On the rear it would be based on the tow bar, but on the front due to the Norwegian laws nothing can poke out unless it is approved, so I would be making a soft something from a strap bolted to the frame or something.
Me doing recovery at 4.00 minutes in:
I would not recommend to do it like this!
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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22 Jan 2023 22:48 #247103
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Thoughts on towbar hitch receiver recovery points
I bought a removable swan neck tow bar a few years ago (I needed to tow) and last summer added a couple of heavy duty swivel recovery points by drilling the bar. If I was doing it again I would buy a tow bar with 2” receiver, then you can get a tow bar, a recovery shackle or even a plate to take a winch, all in 2” receiver, so much more flexible.
Others have fitted a 2” receiver at the front and can then fit a portable winch to either end, that is the best of all worlds.
Robin
Others have fitted a 2” receiver at the front and can then fit a portable winch to either end, that is the best of all worlds.
Robin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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