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Refrigerant and compressor oil for air conditioning system

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01 Sep 2016 06:36 - 01 Sep 2016 06:41 #171909 by Bosanek
I searched this forum and the rest of the Internet, including Suzuki's service manual, for information on which types and quantities of refrigerant fluid and compressor machine oil are needed for Jimny's air conditioning system.

However, the only information I found was that I need R134a type refrigerant fluid (the ubiquitous one). I found that in Suzuki's service manual.

What type of compressor oil do I need?

What are the required quantities of both to fully load the system?


Is the air conditioning system the same in all Jimnys, older and newer, petrol and diesel?
Mine is diesel.
Last edit: 01 Sep 2016 06:41 by Bosanek.

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01 Sep 2016 06:59 - 01 Sep 2016 07:18 #171910 by Bosanek
I have just found one Hella's catalogue which lists required quantities of refrigerant and oil for various vehicles' AC systems:

www.autototal.ro/dmdocuments/Catalog%20B...g%20Behr%20Hella.pdf

It lists that Jimny requires between 500 and 600 grams of R134a refrigerant, but 0 ml of oil !?
Last edit: 01 Sep 2016 07:18 by Bosanek.

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01 Sep 2016 14:55 #171915 by Halford
not sure but I think the oil is simply in the refrigerant (can also put dye in it to show up should there be a leak.

IMO however, from knowledgeable mechanics I have been lead to believe that it's best not to change/recharge the system as experience has shown that once you do, problems start i.e. compressor failure or bursts - could be that the system was about to fail anyway, or maybe the added strain of a newly fully charged system causes failure

anyway ... my compressor seized and failed a few months after a recharge - and to be honest the recharge didn't make the aircon any better than it was in the first place, just hoped it would.

:(

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26 Sep 2018 13:47 #196290 by h_hezzah
G engine and K (Diesel) charges at 550g
M engine needs only 430g.

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26 Sep 2018 16:35 #196296 by Scimike
STP aircon recharge service or DIY kit offered at Halfords. Charged my Jimny early this year as the refrigerant pressure had dropped below the cut in point preventing the system working. Once charged to the correct pressure its been fine for the last 8 months and is still going strong. The STP solution contains all the system needs ready mixed and also contains a leak sealer.
Will not seal a massive leak, but more than adequate for a slow leak. You can also get the kit on Ebay if you are anti Halfords.
Been loverly and cool all summer :)
Mike

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28 Sep 2018 10:25 #196339 by Busta

Halford wrote: not sure but I think the oil is simply in the refrigerant (can also put dye in it to show up should there be a leak.

IMO however, from knowledgeable mechanics I have been lead to believe that it's best not to change/recharge the system as experience has shown that once you do, problems start i.e. compressor failure or bursts - could be that the system was about to fail anyway, or maybe the added strain of a newly fully charged system causes failure

anyway ... my compressor seized and failed a few months after a recharge - and to be honest the recharge didn't make the aircon any better than it was in the first place, just hoped it would.

:(


What do you suggest as an alternative to recharging then?

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