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Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
30 Oct 2010 15:05 - 30 Oct 2010 15:06 #5552
by Obarno
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings was created by Obarno
What mountings is everyone using? Are you using standard Jimny, Samurai or something different - do you get any transmitted vibration through the mountings?
I mean the actual rubber/plastic etc mounting and not the arms.
Any info much appreciated.
I mean the actual rubber/plastic etc mounting and not the arms.
Any info much appreciated.
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
Last edit: 30 Oct 2010 15:06 by Obarno.
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30 Oct 2010 16:56 #5564
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
I have Offroad Armory ones.
They are made of a Polybush material and do seem to transmit more transmission noise that the soft Suzuki ones.
They are made of a Polybush material and do seem to transmit more transmission noise that the soft Suzuki ones.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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30 Oct 2010 21:13 #5575
by kirkynut
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Replied by kirkynut on topic Re: Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
I have the same as Martin and they make a horrible din!
I bashed my bash plate (that's what it's for after all) in the Lakes so it was touching the transfer box before I got my Rocklobster, which meant it was liek being connected directly to the chassis - it made a horrible noise until I removed it.
The trouble with these nylon ones is the bolt securing them goes all the way through the nylon bushes and the chassis arm. So the bolt it touching the box's metal mount and the chassis and transmits all the noise with it.
The original Suzuki ones have threaded rods coming out of either side which are bonded into the rubber mount but do not go all the way through - so the rubber between them dampens the noise.
I have been looking at the idea of Series Landrover Engine Mounts as an alternative but the mini prop from the transfer box to the gearbox only has one UJ as the other end slides into the gearbox. Therefore you need to keep the angle between them as close to nothing as you can or the gearbox will leak oil through that seal. So I haven't tried it yet through fear of wasting money.
I might get one of these and look at it compared to what's on it to see what the difference will be and get more if it seems close enough.
Kirkynut
I bashed my bash plate (that's what it's for after all) in the Lakes so it was touching the transfer box before I got my Rocklobster, which meant it was liek being connected directly to the chassis - it made a horrible noise until I removed it.
The trouble with these nylon ones is the bolt securing them goes all the way through the nylon bushes and the chassis arm. So the bolt it touching the box's metal mount and the chassis and transmits all the noise with it.
The original Suzuki ones have threaded rods coming out of either side which are bonded into the rubber mount but do not go all the way through - so the rubber between them dampens the noise.
I have been looking at the idea of Series Landrover Engine Mounts as an alternative but the mini prop from the transfer box to the gearbox only has one UJ as the other end slides into the gearbox. Therefore you need to keep the angle between them as close to nothing as you can or the gearbox will leak oil through that seal. So I haven't tried it yet through fear of wasting money.
I might get one of these and look at it compared to what's on it to see what the difference will be and get more if it seems close enough.
Kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
My Jimny Thread Here: www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...on-continues?start=0
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31 Oct 2010 22:45 #5615
by g187eev
Replied by g187eev on topic Re: Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
Hi guys, hi Peter....
It's interesting to hear how other customers are getting on with the bushes... did you try loosening the bolts as I suggested the other day Peter?... We are aware that the bushes do transfer a bit more drive train noise than the std bushes due to the poly' being stiffer than the factory suzuki bushes... however we'd not say it was a "horrible din"???
All the test vehicle we tried the bushes on, when fitted correctly, hardly made any more noise than std... and we found that much more noise could be heard from such things like mud tyres on the road etc etc...
As I have already said to Peter and would also suggest to anyone else running out t-case bushes... they should not be over tightened... you should nip them up just to take any slack out of the bolt, and then just 1 more turn for good measure...
Rob
OFFROAD ARMOURY
It's interesting to hear how other customers are getting on with the bushes... did you try loosening the bolts as I suggested the other day Peter?... We are aware that the bushes do transfer a bit more drive train noise than the std bushes due to the poly' being stiffer than the factory suzuki bushes... however we'd not say it was a "horrible din"???
All the test vehicle we tried the bushes on, when fitted correctly, hardly made any more noise than std... and we found that much more noise could be heard from such things like mud tyres on the road etc etc...
As I have already said to Peter and would also suggest to anyone else running out t-case bushes... they should not be over tightened... you should nip them up just to take any slack out of the bolt, and then just 1 more turn for good measure...
Rob
OFFROAD ARMOURY
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01 Nov 2010 08:03 - 01 Nov 2010 08:06 #5619
by Obarno
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
Replied by Obarno on topic Re: Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
Hi Guys, Rob - I did try loosening them of a bit but really it didn't make much difference. I haven't yet tried going back to std Suzi to see what they are like again but I have found that at certain speeds it gets noticeably worse, really the faster you go. Its not so much that I don't like the vibration, (I don't) its more the fact that it does vibrate and there has to be a reason. I was at a trial at the weekend and another Suzi owner suggested that the problem was not necessarily the mountings but the fact that the box doesn't sit level (it sits down at the back) The effect of this is that the input flange on the transfer box is not square to the back of the main gearbox. I know from my Wrangler that the only way to cure this is to put a cv joint on the output from the gearbox, and maybe that's what the Jimny needs. I'm not sure why the transfer box is mounted at an angle and maybe it could be mounted level. If so would that cure the problem? Rob I know that you wouldn't have just made the new mounts like that but I wonder why?
I also wonder what damage it might be doing to the bearing on the back of the autobox and the input bearing of the transfer box.
Any further thoughts much appreciated and thanks for your thoughts so far.
Kirkynut - I dod try some Kap mounts which are like a strong version of the suzi made I think with diesel series LR ones but they were very hard and transmitted vibration, but I imagine you would be hard pushed to brake them. I still have them somewhere!
I also wonder what damage it might be doing to the bearing on the back of the autobox and the input bearing of the transfer box.
Any further thoughts much appreciated and thanks for your thoughts so far.
Kirkynut - I dod try some Kap mounts which are like a strong version of the suzi made I think with diesel series LR ones but they were very hard and transmitted vibration, but I imagine you would be hard pushed to brake them. I still have them somewhere!
Manual VVT, 2 1/2" lift, ORA castor corrected arms, 2" ORA body lift, 4:1 transfer box, Uprated front shafts & CVs ERM , ARBs back & front 3.9 diffs, 6 point cage, ORA winch bumper - Superwinch EP9, ORA rear bumper, ORA axle truses, Diff guards ERM , TBR tank guard, Snorkel, Kumho KL71.30.9.50 15
Last edit: 01 Nov 2010 08:06 by Obarno.
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01 Nov 2010 08:22 #5621
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Rocklobster Transfer Box Mountings
I would certainly not describe the change in mine as being a "horrible din". I would more describe it as a "feeling", if you place both your feet on the floor you can feel the vibration through your feet. If it is causing a lot of noise I would guess you have problems elsewhere that the mounts are magnifying in some way.
Martin
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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