Need info on Jimny's (compared to Landy's) - help?

The trouble is both those Jimnys are not really lightly modified, they are quite comprehensively modified to achieve the simple look.

According to the site, in order to run those tyres the first one has a 6.1 Samurai T-case, front and rear HD axle shafts and CV's. 4.57 R&P's with front and rear ARB airlockers. 1600-16v engine with 2WD Vitara main case. 4 inch D&G suspension kit and a 3 inch bodylift. HD front and rear radius arms with castor correction. As it is a DGTuning built car it is very well built, but took the Gross National Product of a small African country to finance.

The other one is also listed as having an SJ T-case, this time a 4.16 Rocklobster, so again its becoming a more major build. It has a DGTuning plastic bumper behind the winch bar, I cannot see who made the winch bar

Martin

I guess that's me all over :lol: always wanting a bit too OTT.

Ok if I was to step it down a bit (at least to begin with).

1. Do you know what make of snorkel is on those Jimny's?

2. Using stock rims, what sort of size tyre can you go to without the need to regear?

2a. What size tyre if retaining stock suspension? And if a small lift was added (say 2") what size tyre then without having to sort out the gearing?


Thanks.

stick with 195/15 mud terrains on std rims, theyre slightly taller than standard and will get you further than you think, the snorkels a TJM Airtec one and Martin sells then on here, stock expected soon i believe - i had one on my previous jimny and they fit well and are really tough.

Gary

see HERE for the snorkle!! - my favourite shop

Martin

We run 215rx15 on standard rims (well slightly wider daihatsu rims which equates to a 29" tyre. this needs a 2" suspension lift and very light bumper edge trimming. Some go for trimming the wheel arches completely but we didnt

I believe Martin runs 235x70's although a common swap is to go for Vitara 16" wheels and fit Landrover tyres (but you may need to lift the body too.

We run 215's and to be honest this is about as large as the little 1.3 can cope with on standard gears.
5th gear is rarely used and we frequently drop to Low Box when fording / doing any offroading. Mainly for the control. It would be nice to go lower but then you have to look at swapping TX boxes or ratios

Naah, still running Goodyear Wrangler MT/R 235/75 R15 tyres....

...I have everything ready for some nice R16 tyres, except the money

Just when I thought I had the money I seem to have got some new bedroom furniture instead

Martin

Yes i have 16" Grand Vitara wheels with 32mm spacers (as the offset is poor and without they catch on the inner arches) and 205/16 diamonds. BUT i have a rocklobster 6:1 transfer case, no way I'd be running those tyres on a standard transfer case/gearing.

Gary

cheers. What profile is that on the 195's?

Need to remember its only small, usually run 33.11.50's on the Disco, although they measure nearer to 34" tall!

80's or 85's, just get some kingpin 195/15 mud terrains and enjoy it.
Gary

jimny are getting more popular, so much so , i know of 3 landy owners in my club who are selling up and going jimny.

mine, only mods is the front bumper cut and tires, 195/80 15 kingpin tracker mt ( 28" tall ) and sj front hubs

It could pay to buy an already modified Jimny off ebay, there are often several on there at any one time and they are not fetching much more than £1600.00 often now.

Just keep an eye out for rust as well as the bearings and bits mentioned above. Not in the chassis like on a Landy, on the body instead.

The twin cam engine from 2000 on is best but don't get one with ABS for obvious reasons off road.

The only things I think let them down over a D90 are the trouble it can have in dep ruts as the radius arms are the lowest point and catch on the wider Landrover ruts and the fact that the radius arms can not twist at the chassis mount to allow for more articualtion. I'm happy with my articulation though - see pic in the gallery of mine in the Lake District.

There is nothing you can do about the position of the radius arms, just get bigger tyres but then the issue of gearing comes into play.

KAP did do Twister Radius Arms but I think they've stopped after some problems. They worked on a thread undoing and doing back up constantly. I think on road problems occurred. You need to keep the stock bushes as they offer some movement, being rubber.

The cost is also an issue, having said that, I don't think you need harder shafts for the mods you are looking at, just maybe CV's from D+G (expensive). A Landy will need the contents of Ashcroft's Catalogue to get to Jimny Standards. The Diffs on Jimny's are trouble free - being 4 pin and over engineered, unlike the Landy 2 Pin ones that are OK for what they were designed for but not what we do. So maybe the cost is not too disimilar to a Landy.

The purchase price is far less than a D90 though and they are plentiful at cheap money.

On the wheel and gearing front. I run 205/16's which are Kumho KL71's, so not too aggressive. They are on Grand Vitara wheels and I have no spacers, get no rubbing and have a 3 inch lift with no body mods. I am happy with the gearing. More aggressive tyres seem to come slightly larger and would cause gearing issues then, I'm just under the limit before gearing becomes an issue.

Bumpers are expensive mind and they have to be welded on, so that is a slight downer. I'm getting one fabricated soon with a cage and rear bumper to fit a winch I have.

Now you have asked about this just as our friends have gone from a very well sorted SJ to a competition spec D90. So I have been thinking about what you have been thinking about a bit too.

He bought it for £7k and it has everything, ready to compete in a proper winch challenge. To make it like it has will have cost over £25K. If you spent that money on a Jimny to get it to the same spec I would expect to see some very precious metals on it and would question your sanity. But could it do the same? I doubt it. For what you want to do though - it's Jimny all the way.

Kirkynut

If you need anymore convincing, I just put my Range Rover Sport into the bushes....

Oh the shame of it!!!

Just came into my drive. Its a small private drive with 4 houses. Red arrow shows where I wanted to go. Yellow arrow shows the direction of the steep down hill slope. Green arrow shows the bushes the Range Rover ended up in

It just slid sideways all on its own whilst STOPPED. The only option was to let it slide as the other option is to put on some power and continue straight down the hill into the very very large trees at the bottom.

To show how slippery it is, the 1 ton Jimny then winched the 3 ton Range Rover SIDEWAYS up onto my grass (the bit on the lower side of the red arrow, with the Jimny parked on the very slippery road and me expecting the Range Rover to stay where it is and the Jimny to winch itself down the hill)

Jimnys rule, Range Rovers suck!