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Jimny suspension questions
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28 Apr 2011 19:16 #15612
by Cocopolo
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@Firstjimny : with 3.5" lift you can use castor correcting bushes: this will reduce the madness of the steering, but reduces also the flex ability of the front axle, and in any case will not completely cure the castor angle (i understand that every 5cm of lift needs around 3° of castor correction)
The best solution is to buy some castor corrected arms, which are of course expensive, but works much more better than other solutions, and besides this they put the coils in their correct position (no more banana shape) and keep the best articulation of front axle. And, do not forget, that original front arms likes very much to bend when used for serious offroad, and ALL aftermarket arms are much stronger ...
Here in Italy Zanfi has 4 versions of arms: 5° and 10° correction, and you can choose both type in tubolar or "frame" (don't know the correct word) design (tubolar are more heavy duty) and the set of 2 arms costs 280€
The best solution is to buy some castor corrected arms, which are of course expensive, but works much more better than other solutions, and besides this they put the coils in their correct position (no more banana shape) and keep the best articulation of front axle. And, do not forget, that original front arms likes very much to bend when used for serious offroad, and ALL aftermarket arms are much stronger ...
Here in Italy Zanfi has 4 versions of arms: 5° and 10° correction, and you can choose both type in tubolar or "frame" (don't know the correct word) design (tubolar are more heavy duty) and the set of 2 arms costs 280€
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29 Apr 2011 02:02 #15619
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Thanks to everyone who has written in for all the information you have provided. I appreciate the time and effort you have taken to help me out with this problem.
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11 Aug 2011 08:05 #20173
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Hello everyone,
I have a few questions regarding the suspension too. If someone could shed a light, it would be much appreciated
My Jimny currently has a 2" ProComp suspension lift and a 1" body lift, but no castor correction to my knowledge. I plan to correct the castor and if I'm at it also improve things a little, so:
- rear shock relocation brackets; these will raise the shock by ~2". Considering I already have a suspension lift in place, will my Jimny raise its behind in the air even more ?
- radius arm mount guards; are they worth it ? they look cool and everything, but I think if you hit something really hard with the guards mounted you'll damage the arm mount anyway.
- rear Panhard relocation bracket; is it needed for a 2" lift ?
- lengthened steering arm; anything against it ?
- castor correction bushes or castor corrected radius arms ? to my understanding, for 2" SL you can get away with bushes only. In this case: rubber or polyurethane ? if I'm at it, should I get an entire kit (all radius arms and Panhards) ?
Thank you!
I have a few questions regarding the suspension too. If someone could shed a light, it would be much appreciated
My Jimny currently has a 2" ProComp suspension lift and a 1" body lift, but no castor correction to my knowledge. I plan to correct the castor and if I'm at it also improve things a little, so:
- rear shock relocation brackets; these will raise the shock by ~2". Considering I already have a suspension lift in place, will my Jimny raise its behind in the air even more ?
- radius arm mount guards; are they worth it ? they look cool and everything, but I think if you hit something really hard with the guards mounted you'll damage the arm mount anyway.
- rear Panhard relocation bracket; is it needed for a 2" lift ?
- lengthened steering arm; anything against it ?
- castor correction bushes or castor corrected radius arms ? to my understanding, for 2" SL you can get away with bushes only. In this case: rubber or polyurethane ? if I'm at it, should I get an entire kit (all radius arms and Panhards) ?
Thank you!
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11 Aug 2011 08:22 #20174
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Replied by dadam on topic Re: Jimny suspension questions
Relocation won't affect the height of your rear, it's the springs length that does it
Some castor bushes would be perfect for 2" lift, but only if your front springs look like bananas!
Most of the 2" lift kit are pretty conservative for the springs shape.
In my opinion, don't use polyuréthane ones, they'll make the Jimny stiffer again with no real benefits on road, and less axle crossing than rubber ones.
Some castor bushes would be perfect for 2" lift, but only if your front springs look like bananas!
Most of the 2" lift kit are pretty conservative for the springs shape.
In my opinion, don't use polyuréthane ones, they'll make the Jimny stiffer again with no real benefits on road, and less axle crossing than rubber ones.
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11 Aug 2011 08:32 #20176
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Hi Vaxxi,
my opinion, trying to be brief are:
- rear shock brackets: do not have any change in vehicle riding height, but before mounting them, made some measurement in order to be sure that shock absorbers do not "bottom out" (you effectively raise the lower mount, but you are not raising also the high mounting point) and to avoid that the shock + repositioner lenght is not too much for the spring travel ... you will risk to loose your left springs in extreme crossaxle situations
- radius arms mount guard ... usefull only to grab mud inside them and loose ground clearance
- panhard relocation ... not needed for 2" ... the inclination of rear panhard is fair, and the lateral movements within reasonable tolerance
- lenghtned steering arms ? never heard about them
- even if for 2" lift the castor bushes are enough, the castor arms are much more better: they are usually stronger than stock ones, they can set the castor to a value higher than stock (better driveability and steereing response), and you can use with them the genuine rubber bushes which flexes much more better that castor bushes
- adjustable panhards for 2" lift are not necessary for correction of axles position, but are a good improvement as they have usually heavy duty constructions against the weak stock ones ...
Hope this help
my opinion, trying to be brief are:
- rear shock brackets: do not have any change in vehicle riding height, but before mounting them, made some measurement in order to be sure that shock absorbers do not "bottom out" (you effectively raise the lower mount, but you are not raising also the high mounting point) and to avoid that the shock + repositioner lenght is not too much for the spring travel ... you will risk to loose your left springs in extreme crossaxle situations
- radius arms mount guard ... usefull only to grab mud inside them and loose ground clearance
- panhard relocation ... not needed for 2" ... the inclination of rear panhard is fair, and the lateral movements within reasonable tolerance
- lenghtned steering arms ? never heard about them
- even if for 2" lift the castor bushes are enough, the castor arms are much more better: they are usually stronger than stock ones, they can set the castor to a value higher than stock (better driveability and steereing response), and you can use with them the genuine rubber bushes which flexes much more better that castor bushes
- adjustable panhards for 2" lift are not necessary for correction of axles position, but are a good improvement as they have usually heavy duty constructions against the weak stock ones ...
Hope this help
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11 Aug 2011 09:11 #20180
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Hello!
My jimny is pushing to the left. The people from aligment said that everthing is ok.
I raised it with HD OME springs, front and rear. At the front i ad more 3cm. My jimny as iron front bumper and a t-max 6500 winch. An iron rear bumper, roof rack with spare tyre.
i managed to put strait. But keeps on pushing to the left.
I was tinking to change my panhard bars (front and rear). I´m waiting for my caster corrections. compare to a original one he is only 5cm higher.
should i get used to it or look for something else.
Thanks
Africa-Angola-Luanda
My jimny is pushing to the left. The people from aligment said that everthing is ok.
I raised it with HD OME springs, front and rear. At the front i ad more 3cm. My jimny as iron front bumper and a t-max 6500 winch. An iron rear bumper, roof rack with spare tyre.
i managed to put strait. But keeps on pushing to the left.
I was tinking to change my panhard bars (front and rear). I´m waiting for my caster corrections. compare to a original one he is only 5cm higher.
should i get used to it or look for something else.
Thanks
Africa-Angola-Luanda
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