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Engine Swap Queries
12 Nov 2024 08:28 - 13 Nov 2024 02:33 #258268
by Kawasaki
Engine Swap Queries was created by Kawasaki
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and was hoping to get some guidance on swapping in an engine I recently purchased. I daily drive a 2010 Jimny Sierra with a manual transmission and an M13A VVT motor, which has clocked over 330,000 km and is currently on life support. Since getting quotes for the swap at around $3000, I thought it would be more affordable and fun to attempt this swap myself. (I'm a university student on a budget, so any savings help!)
Recently, I found a 2014 Suzuki SX4 S-Cross M16A VVT engine with 100,000 km from a wrecker. It came with the ECU and wiring looms. After researching my options, I decided on the SX4 M16A over the M18A, as it was cheaper, had lower kilometers, and was more available here in Sydney.
I have a few questions and I’d appreciate any advice or guidance you can provide (I hope I don't sound like a clown with these questions! ):
1. CompatibilityI’ve read somewhere that the 2014 SX4 M16A should be compatible with my 2010 Jimny, but could anyone confirm this?
2. Parts to Swap OverFrom what I've gathered, parts like the alternator, pulleys, oil sump tray, oil pickup, rocker cover, and water pump may need to be swapped over from my current engine to the M16A. I'm unsure about the throttle body, fuel injectors, fuel rail, flywheel, and starter motor — do these need to be swapped as well?
3. Radiator Outlet PlacementI've noticed the radiator outlet on the SX4 engine is in a different location than on the Jimny. The SX4 has the upper outlet positioned towards the back of the engine with a pipe coming from the water pump, unlike the Swift engines, which have a front outlet. Is there a way to reroute or adapt this to fit the Jimny setup? (I have provided some pictures to help!)
4. Intake and Exhaust ManifoldsWill the stock Jimny header and intake manifold bolt directly onto the SX4 M16A, or will modifications be needed?
5. ECU CompatibilityWould the stock Jimny ECU be compatible with this engine? I know the SX4 engine is from an automatic, and I’ve read that the Jimny ECU could work with a tune, but would love confirmation on this.
6. Odometer readingsWhat would my dash read when I swap the engine? Will it read the mileage from the donor motor?
I'm hoping this doesn’t turn into a money pit, and I’d be very grateful for any insights, guidance, or advice from those with experience in similar swaps. Apologies for the long message and thanks for your time!
— Kawasaki
I'm new to the forum and was hoping to get some guidance on swapping in an engine I recently purchased. I daily drive a 2010 Jimny Sierra with a manual transmission and an M13A VVT motor, which has clocked over 330,000 km and is currently on life support. Since getting quotes for the swap at around $3000, I thought it would be more affordable and fun to attempt this swap myself. (I'm a university student on a budget, so any savings help!)
Recently, I found a 2014 Suzuki SX4 S-Cross M16A VVT engine with 100,000 km from a wrecker. It came with the ECU and wiring looms. After researching my options, I decided on the SX4 M16A over the M18A, as it was cheaper, had lower kilometers, and was more available here in Sydney.
I have a few questions and I’d appreciate any advice or guidance you can provide (I hope I don't sound like a clown with these questions! ):
1. CompatibilityI’ve read somewhere that the 2014 SX4 M16A should be compatible with my 2010 Jimny, but could anyone confirm this?
2. Parts to Swap OverFrom what I've gathered, parts like the alternator, pulleys, oil sump tray, oil pickup, rocker cover, and water pump may need to be swapped over from my current engine to the M16A. I'm unsure about the throttle body, fuel injectors, fuel rail, flywheel, and starter motor — do these need to be swapped as well?
3. Radiator Outlet PlacementI've noticed the radiator outlet on the SX4 engine is in a different location than on the Jimny. The SX4 has the upper outlet positioned towards the back of the engine with a pipe coming from the water pump, unlike the Swift engines, which have a front outlet. Is there a way to reroute or adapt this to fit the Jimny setup? (I have provided some pictures to help!)
4. Intake and Exhaust ManifoldsWill the stock Jimny header and intake manifold bolt directly onto the SX4 M16A, or will modifications be needed?
5. ECU CompatibilityWould the stock Jimny ECU be compatible with this engine? I know the SX4 engine is from an automatic, and I’ve read that the Jimny ECU could work with a tune, but would love confirmation on this.
6. Odometer readingsWhat would my dash read when I swap the engine? Will it read the mileage from the donor motor?
I'm hoping this doesn’t turn into a money pit, and I’d be very grateful for any insights, guidance, or advice from those with experience in similar swaps. Apologies for the long message and thanks for your time!
— Kawasaki
Last edit: 13 Nov 2024 02:33 by Kawasaki.
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12 Nov 2024 09:40 #258269
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic Engine Swap Queries
Essentially it's a long block swap so everything is moved over. Have a look at the information section of the site in the top banner there is a lot more info there.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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12 Nov 2024 10:59 #258271
by Kawasaki
Replied by Kawasaki on topic Engine Swap Queries
Alright thank you, I'll have a look into the informations section
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12 Nov 2024 21:05 #258277
by fordem
Replied by fordem on topic Engine Swap Queries
You appear to be in Australia, check with the guys at the Auszookers.com forum, there's an entire thread on this swap and you might find you're not too far from someone who can swing by and help if needed.
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12 Nov 2024 21:32 #258278
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Engine Swap Queries
How I did first time round was to remove my Jimny engine, sit it next to the donor engine then swap over everything that's different. It's all plug and play, the engines are externally identical. You can run it from the Jimny ECU without charging anything there. Use the donor throttle body and injectors.
The only parts you will need to buy are intake and exhaust gaskets and the threaded spigot to mount the oil filter.
The only parts you will need to buy are intake and exhaust gaskets and the threaded spigot to mount the oil filter.
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12 Nov 2024 21:37 #258280
by Kawasaki
Replied by Kawasaki on topic Engine Swap Queries
Okay, thank you for your direction!
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13 Nov 2024 12:52 - 13 Nov 2024 12:53 #258286
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Engine Swap Queries
www.bigjimny.com/index.php/forum/8-my-ji...akuza?start=0#180028
frome there and the next page is my story on the swap. from then on out you can also see the consequences with broken gearbox, diff, and so on
I took the intake manifold out of the car, and the rest was dismantled inside the engine bay and strapped out to the fenders for the long block change.
I did a write up on this years ago that I never put in the Wiki section.. But i just might one day.
frome there and the next page is my story on the swap. from then on out you can also see the consequences with broken gearbox, diff, and so on
I took the intake manifold out of the car, and the rest was dismantled inside the engine bay and strapped out to the fenders for the long block change.
I did a write up on this years ago that I never put in the Wiki section.. But i just might one day.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Last edit: 13 Nov 2024 12:53 by yakuza.
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13 Nov 2024 13:00 #258287
by yakuza
2 injectors from the M16, the rest from the m13 is reused and the flywheel must be m13 to fit your gearbox.
3 resusing everything from your m13 will make everything fit like hoses.
4 reusing m13 here too, they will fit.
5 Jimny ECU will work fine. remap might give you a horse or five.
6 odometer miles and km's is stored in and follows the dashbord cluster actually..
7 -the oil pickup tube and oil pan from the m13. i welded a stay on the pickup tube to fit the m13 tube to the m16 insides i think..
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Engine Swap Queries
1. not sure, there are differences between markets too, and here the SX4 is built in Hungary i think.Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum and was hoping to get some guidance on swapping in an engine I recently purchased. I daily drive a 2010 Jimny Sierra with a manual transmission and an M13A VVT motor, which has clocked over 330,000 km and is currently on life support. Since getting quotes for the swap at around $3000, I thought it would be more affordable and fun to attempt this swap myself. (I'm a university student on a budget, so any savings help!)
Recently, I found a 2014 Suzuki SX4 S-Cross M16A VVT engine with 100,000 km from a wrecker. It came with the ECU and wiring looms. After researching my options, I decided on the SX4 M16A over the M18A, as it was cheaper, had lower kilometers, and was more available here in Sydney.
I have a few questions and I’d appreciate any advice or guidance you can provide (I hope I don't sound like a clown with these questions! ):
1. CompatibilityI’ve read somewhere that the 2014 SX4 M16A should be compatible with my 2010 Jimny, but could anyone confirm this?
2. Parts to Swap OverFrom what I've gathered, parts like the alternator, pulleys, oil sump tray, oil pickup, rocker cover, and water pump may need to be swapped over from my current engine to the M16A. I'm unsure about the throttle body, fuel injectors, fuel rail, flywheel, and starter motor — do these need to be swapped as well?
3. Radiator Outlet PlacementI've noticed the radiator outlet on the SX4 engine is in a different location than on the Jimny. The SX4 has the upper outlet positioned towards the back of the engine with a pipe coming from the water pump, unlike the Swift engines, which have a front outlet. Is there a way to reroute or adapt this to fit the Jimny setup? (I have provided some pictures to help!)
4. Intake and Exhaust ManifoldsWill the stock Jimny header and intake manifold bolt directly onto the SX4 M16A, or will modifications be needed?
5. ECU CompatibilityWould the stock Jimny ECU be compatible with this engine? I know the SX4 engine is from an automatic, and I’ve read that the Jimny ECU could work with a tune, but would love confirmation on this.
6. Odometer readingsWhat would my dash read when I swap the engine? Will it read the mileage from the donor motor?
I'm hoping this doesn’t turn into a money pit, and I’d be very grateful for any insights, guidance, or advice from those with experience in similar swaps. Apologies for the long message and thanks for your time!
— Kawasaki
2 injectors from the M16, the rest from the m13 is reused and the flywheel must be m13 to fit your gearbox.
3 resusing everything from your m13 will make everything fit like hoses.
4 reusing m13 here too, they will fit.
5 Jimny ECU will work fine. remap might give you a horse or five.
6 odometer miles and km's is stored in and follows the dashbord cluster actually..
7 -the oil pickup tube and oil pan from the m13. i welded a stay on the pickup tube to fit the m13 tube to the m16 insides i think..
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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17 Nov 2024 01:16 #258349
by Kawasaki
Replied by Kawasaki on topic Engine Swap Queries
Thanks for the replies you all!
I have contacted the seller and they were kind enough to swap it to the Swift engines. Had a closer look and the north-south configuration mounting points on the SX4 and they were non existent! These replies have been helpful in giving me more of an insight on understanding M16A engine more.
- Kawasaki
I have contacted the seller and they were kind enough to swap it to the Swift engines. Had a closer look and the north-south configuration mounting points on the SX4 and they were non existent! These replies have been helpful in giving me more of an insight on understanding M16A engine more.
- Kawasaki
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19 Nov 2024 07:47 #258394
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Engine Swap Queries
Jimny engine mounts from north-south m13a engines should fit the m16a east-west engines. as far as i know they are mostly the same and there are threaded holes in the block that will fit them all.
My m16 Liana engine was east-west and now sits north south in the Jimny.
My m16 Liana engine was east-west and now sits north south in the Jimny.
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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