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14 Jan 2024 13:52 #253504
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Spot lights
Maypole have come up with an LED combined fog and flood beam lamp which may be suitable. Size would complement the 7" h/lamp of a Jimny.
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14 Jan 2024 18:55 #253506
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
Replied by DrRobin on topic Spot lights
Thanks everyone, I have a much better understanding.
I have refined my ideas and I am not really looking for a fog lamp, so that sout.
I now realise R112 specifies the light intensity, you can have a maximum of 100 (Reference Mark) at the front. The Jimny headlamps are 20 each then as follows:
VX80 - 12.5 each
MX-180 - 25 each
Hella 7" Blade 22w - 25 each
Hella 7" Blade 36w - 50 each
This means that the Hella 7" blade 36w cannot be fitted as that would take the reference light to a total of 140. However, the 22w variant can be fitted, but seems to be much less common, I have only found one place selling these and they are more expensive than the 36w, but still cheaper than the MX-180.
It also doesn't matter which EU country it was approved in as approval also extends to the UK, provided it was approval date was before Brexit.
So it still comes down to the Osram VX80, Osram MX-180 or Hella 7" Blade 22w. Out of all of them I look the look of the Hella best, then probably for light output the MX-180, but I prefer the visual apperance of the VX80 to the MX-180, but it is only half the light output of the other two.
The Hella 7" and MX-180 combine a position light with a spot, so in high beam will give a spread of light close to the vehicle and a spot in the far distance, that might be the best of all worlds for me.
Robin
I have refined my ideas and I am not really looking for a fog lamp, so that sout.
I now realise R112 specifies the light intensity, you can have a maximum of 100 (Reference Mark) at the front. The Jimny headlamps are 20 each then as follows:
VX80 - 12.5 each
MX-180 - 25 each
Hella 7" Blade 22w - 25 each
Hella 7" Blade 36w - 50 each
This means that the Hella 7" blade 36w cannot be fitted as that would take the reference light to a total of 140. However, the 22w variant can be fitted, but seems to be much less common, I have only found one place selling these and they are more expensive than the 36w, but still cheaper than the MX-180.
It also doesn't matter which EU country it was approved in as approval also extends to the UK, provided it was approval date was before Brexit.
So it still comes down to the Osram VX80, Osram MX-180 or Hella 7" Blade 22w. Out of all of them I look the look of the Hella best, then probably for light output the MX-180, but I prefer the visual apperance of the VX80 to the MX-180, but it is only half the light output of the other two.
The Hella 7" and MX-180 combine a position light with a spot, so in high beam will give a spread of light close to the vehicle and a spot in the far distance, that might be the best of all worlds for me.
Robin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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14 Jan 2024 20:38 #253509
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Spot lights
Forgive my ignorance, but I thought ECE R112 & R123 were the requirements for the lamps to get an E mark?
Where does this 100 come from, is it intensity at specific distances or source luminosity?
AFAIK there is no UK limit on the total luminosity or number of additional lamps, just they must carry an approved mark and not be operated to cause dazzle or annoyance. RVLR 1989 is what applies to the UK, section 5 has no specification on intensity- presumably that is covered by the E mark, and why you can't fit LED or 120W bulbs to an H4 headlamp, as then it wouldn't conform to it's E marking.
Where does this 100 come from, is it intensity at specific distances or source luminosity?
AFAIK there is no UK limit on the total luminosity or number of additional lamps, just they must carry an approved mark and not be operated to cause dazzle or annoyance. RVLR 1989 is what applies to the UK, section 5 has no specification on intensity- presumably that is covered by the E mark, and why you can't fit LED or 120W bulbs to an H4 headlamp, as then it wouldn't conform to it's E marking.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there

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14 Jan 2024 23:11 #253517
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
Replied by yakuza on topic Spot lights
Norway is not an EU member, we Just comply completely to all its laws.
But the regulations with the sum of the lamps R-number and no lamps on the roof and all that was removed here 3 or 4 years ago.
About the time I got my three lamps. Had to be even numbers before, only pairs
But the regulations with the sum of the lamps R-number and no lamps on the roof and all that was removed here 3 or 4 years ago.
About the time I got my three lamps. Had to be even numbers before, only pairs

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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