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Failed MOT on emissions

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24 Feb 2023 16:27 #247733 by Wailin
Hi all, my 2002 Jimny has failed the MOT on very high emissions at idle. I have noticed it idling at high revs at start up the last while and after failing, I checked the lamda sensors and noticed the one after the catalytic converter was completely rotted and broken away. I can't find anywhere that stocks the exact model, and in fact, I can't find the model number either. Can anyone point me in the right direction please and will this sort the emissions problem? TIA

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24 Feb 2023 17:38 #247734 by Scimike
Replied by Scimike on topic Failed MOT on emissions
They don't last forever and manufacturers suggest 60 to 90K miles, but external factors can also kill them. I would feel confident that it will fix your problem so long as the exhaust mount and CAT are in good order. Its the correct starting point anyway, fix the problems you can see before you look further. If you intend to keep the car don't skimp on this part, Denso or branded will work for another 20 years, cheap as chips sensors may / may not work long, but I appreciate you can only go as far as spare cash allows.
Unfortunately I can't help with the part number, but someone will be along to help with this I am sure.
 

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24 Feb 2023 17:44 - 24 Feb 2023 17:47 #247735 by Scimike
Replied by Scimike on topic Failed MOT on emissions
Just had a quick Google
Check out GENUINE SUZUKI 02 LAMBDA SENSOR 18213-56KB0-000 on eBay!
Sensor


They claim to a Suzuki agent and ask for you registration as a check the part will fit. Ask them, if they say yes you can purchase, or use the part number in the photo to find alternatives. Good luck.

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24 Feb 2023 20:18 #247737 by fordem
Replied by fordem on topic Failed MOT on emissions
The lamda sensor AFTER the catalytic will not cause high emissions - it's function is to monitor the converter efficiency, to diagnose the cause of the failure you need to look at the emissions numbers - what specifically did it fail on CO or NO?
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25 Feb 2023 16:49 #247755 by facade
Replied by facade on topic Failed MOT on emissions
As Fordem says, sensor 2 just checks catalyst efficiency.

An exhaust leak post catalyst will cause high lambda readings

Sensor #1 (the manifold) is a common failure on a Jimny, they go out of spec. and the ecu runs upto maximum fuel trim in closed loop, so then the open loop map is shifted and the fuel consumption nosedives across the board.

High CO is over fuelling from a duff sensor #1, high HC is a missfire which may be an over-lean or over-rich mixture due to a duff sensor #1 or an ignition problem.


If you want to throw money at it, change sensor #1, the generic ones work fine, I bought the cheap one that comes without a plug, and I had to cut my lead and crimp it to the new one.

I think it is 4 wire, I can't remember.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)
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26 Feb 2023 15:25 #247768 by Wailin
Replied by Wailin on topic Failed MOT on emissions
Thanks guys, great help, appreciated. It failed for CO at low idle (1.19 vol%) and high idle lamda was out too (1.05, range is 0.97-1.03). Its revving very high at idle so this suggests the o2 sensor at manifold then?

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