Brake pedal travel

Hi all, some background on my Jimny.  It's a 2013 with ABS and currently at around 28,000 miles.  There seems to be a lot of travel in the brake pedal (at least compared to other cars I've driven), so I've been servicing the brakes to try and improve it.  Rear shoes are fine and adjusted properly, and I've bled the system through.  The offside pads had worn unevenly, so I've cleaned and greased the slider pins on both calipers, and fitted new pads and discs.  The old discs were very worn, so I was expected a much firmer brake pedal with the new ones and the slider pins freed, but it's exactly the same.  I will bleed the whole system again to double check, but failing that, is it time for new calipers?  Or is a lot of pedal travel normal for the Jimny?

I guess before we start changing calipers it's better to determine what's normal or not. It's more likely to be trapped air or flexible hoses than the calipers, the OEM ones work for years albeit they can seize.
Problem is everyones perception is different, what's good for one is bad for another etc.

Whilst I think brake performance is marginal, I can't say I consider the travel to be excessive to answer you question.

Not scientific, but if I push my pedal by hand, engine off, It travels down just over 1 inch before it stops. May / may not help you decide. This is 2009 ABS and needs a brake service.

Edit - ok just measured it with a real tape measure, more accuracy. Measured at the longest point on the pedal, that's the bottom edge of the pedal rubber,  this longest point arch's in total 2 inches. That's longer than the movement feels / is, but it's a measurable item.
 

Thanks for that, I've just measured mine and it's about the same, somewhere between 2 and 2.5 inches of travel. So perhaps it's about right.

I've just had a look at the new discs having taken it for a drive to start bedding them in, the coating has worn nice and evenly off the nearside disc, but not so evenly on the offside, so I think it's still not quite right there. I'll give it all another bleed and re-check the offside slider pins.

I just had my 2011 serviced, but they didn't need to do anything to the brakes and the 'feel' in the brake pedal seems more or less the same to me. Anyway it passed it's MOT without problem.

I haven't measured pedal movement but I would say that there feels to be more movement in the pedal before it starts braking than other cars I drive. Give it a good push and my Jimny stops well enough.

The missus' Qashqai has you lurching forward as soon as you touch the brake pedal, in my opinion it is far too fierce. My other car has a little bit of movement then much more progressive braking.

When you push the pedal on your Jimny a good way down are the brakes powerful enough or do you feel they are lacking?

The pedal on Temeraire is or rather was definitely softer some days than others and generally softer than Spare Jimny but in the last 6 months I have not noticed it anywhere near as much even back to back driving them both and this with no interference from me. I would call that a result but Temeraire has ebc green stuff so should be much better than Spare. It's also worth mentioning that compared to Dreadnaught with the braided stainless steel flexible lines and 5.1 fluid both these leave something to be desired. This doesn't help you though beyond that different cars feel different without it necessarily having a reason why.

slickfonzy wrote: Thanks for that, I've just measured mine and it's about the same, somewhere between 2 and 2.5 inches of travel. So perhaps it's about right.

I've just had a look at the new discs having taken it for a drive to start bedding them in, the coating has worn nice and evenly off the nearside disc, but not so evenly on the offside, so I think it's still not quite right there. I'll give it all another bleed and re-check the offside slider pins.

Hi been reading your posts, you said you left coating on disks?I'm not familiar with what people do in other parts of the world im in Australia we clean new disks with brake cleaner before fitting
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Disk bedding process on a road with no one around at 60/70kph apply very high pressure for short periods Never come to a dead stop always being alert ,on the lookout for cars and people
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