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225/80r15 tyres

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04 Mar 2022 23:29 #242146 by CharterBoat
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Hey, I was just wondering if anyone runs 225/80r15 tyres on their gen 3 with a 2inch lift? and what offset are you running aswell?

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05 Mar 2022 21:37 #242154 by yakuza
Replied by yakuza on topic 225/80r15 tyres
On my gen 3 with 2" lift and 235/75/15 the best option to "clear" the original and unmodified fenders is to use the original wheel offset. I use the original alloys. there will be rubbing.
I would think that with your tire size it would be the same.

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06 Mar 2022 00:13 #242156 by CharterBoat
Replied by CharterBoat on topic 225/80r15 tyres
as soon as i posted this question i realised that there arent many tyres in the size i mentioned. see i would like to go 235s but from my understanding the stock wheels arent wide enough for the 235s, have you had any problems with the stock alloys?

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06 Mar 2022 22:27 #242169 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic 225/80r15 tyres
Stock rims are fine for 235 tyres.

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07 Mar 2022 09:26 #242173 by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic 225/80r15 tyres
225/75R15 need minimum 6" rim and 235/R15 need minimum 6.5" rim.

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07 Mar 2022 10:39 #242174 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic 225/80r15 tyres
There's no hard and fast rule on this, it's down to the manufacturer of the tyre in question to stipulate the minimum and maximum wheel size for each size and model of tyre they provide. They are supposed to publish this information under law but it's invariably very well hidden.

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07 Mar 2022 11:15 #242176 by 300bhpton
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There's no hard and fast rule on this, it's down to the manufacturer of the tyre in question to stipulate the minimum and maximum wheel size for each size and model of tyre they provide. They are supposed to publish this information under law but it's invariably very well hidden.
The BFG site is quite good for this (the US one, not the UK one).

I've never really seen tyre makers have different rim specs though for a given tyre width. I'm not saying you shouldn't run wider than recommended, but it should be done so with the knowledge that you are probably breaching Construction & Use regulations and that to the strictest letter of the law it could make you vehicle not fit for road use and also cause potential issue with insurance should you be in an RTA/RTI.

Chances are remote that it would be an issue. But the possibility would always be there.

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07 Mar 2022 11:26 #242177 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic 225/80r15 tyres
Roger, those sound like the generic figures given for standard and low profile tyres. With the tall sidewall of the tyre size in question it will safely fit a lot broader range of rim sizes. Also for off-road use it is preferable to keep the rim width as narrow as possible to protect the bead and the sidewall. As an example, BFGoodrich reccomend a 6"-7" rim for their 235/75r15 tyres.
From experience, tyres as wide as 10.50 (260) are fine on the standard 5.5 rims.

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07 Mar 2022 12:47 #242178 by Lambert
Replied by Lambert on topic 225/80r15 tyres

There's no hard and fast rule on this, it's down to the manufacturer of the tyre in question to stipulate the minimum and maximum wheel size for each size and model of tyre they provide. They are supposed to publish this information under law but it's invariably very well hidden.
The BFG site is quite good for this (the US one, not the UK one).

I've never really seen tyre makers have different rim specs though for a given tyre width. I'm not saying you shouldn't run wider than recommended, but it should be done so with the knowledge that you are probably breaching Construction & Use regulations and that to the strictest letter of the law it could make you vehicle not fit for road use and also cause potential issue with insurance should you be in an RTA/RTI.

Chances are remote that it would be an issue. But the possibility would always be there.

The in sewer ants would probably try it on if you have anything other than factory spec if you haven't told them as they just love to find a way out of paying a claim. It's part of the reason I don't have a massive amount of modified parts on Temeraire, because even when notified those you oily swine will try anything.

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07 Mar 2022 14:34 #242180 by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic 225/80r15 tyres
The info. I have given was taken from a Goodyear booklet entitled "Light truck, van and 4x4 tyre data and maintenance" and is based on info. from the "Tire and rim association standard".
Tyre manufacturers will specify the recommended rim size and also the permitted rim size. If these limits are exceeded then the tyre tread will attempt to conform to the designed tread pattern and this will cause unnatural and dangerous wear patterns to emerge. The relationship between tyre width and rim size is part of the design and is paramount to the safe use of the tyre.

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07 Mar 2022 15:09 #242181 by Lambert
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The relevant body that we are under is etrto the European tyre and rim technical organisation which is useful to know of itself but also a little pointless as it's a trade members only body not a public one unfortunately.

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07 Mar 2022 16:10 #242182 by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic 225/80r15 tyres
Charter Boat is probably confused that there are so many people giving him different answers to his question, so I would suggest he asks Suzuki to give him a definitive answer to the suitable sizes for his rims.

CustomerServices@suzuki.co.uk

Roger

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