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15 Jan 2022 07:25 #241144 by Lambert
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If, and it's a BIG if, I could have 3 hard top 90s for the price of one, in Keswick green with white roof and rear panels so that I could rely on being able to drive at least one of them every day and they were all under factory warranty for 10 years, then I might think about it.

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15 Jan 2022 08:14 #241145 by JAV Man
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If you need to do a lot of towing then I would go for it.
Be prepared though……
You will be on a long waiting list with no confirmed delivery date.
You will constantly be offered alternative low mileage stock Defenders at super inflated prices.
Your order may be cancelled at any time.
The running costs will be eye watering if used as a daily driver.

People may think I’m mad but I choose an LCV Jimny over the new Defender 90.  I think I made the right choice, the smiles per mile beat any JLR vehicle i’ve owned as does the +ve reaction i get from other road users.  
 

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15 Jan 2022 08:22 #241146 by Scimike
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^^^^^^ Yes the waiting list is long. Chap at work is on the list, his estimated ETA for his new Defender is tail end of this year, he ordered August 2022...
Demand / Brexit / COVID / chip shortage (it has a few) all possible causes, but the certainty is a wait.
 

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15 Jan 2022 09:11 #241152 by Soeley
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I wonder if the main reason so many people don't like the new Defender is similar to when BMW brought out the new Mini? If they'd have just stopped production of the old model and brought the new one out with a new name, people wouldn't be so quick to compare the before and after and say "That's not a Defender, it looks nothing like and is too complex."

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15 Jan 2022 09:36 - 15 Jan 2022 09:43 #241156 by lightning
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lnteresting replies. l am definitely with you all on the reliability aspect, it is definitely a concern.

Over on the Defender forums it doesn't seem too bad with regard to faults and cars spending more time at the dealer than on people's drives.

l would go for a base specification with coil suspension, steel wheels and no "bling"

They aren't generally being bought by owners of the old model Defender, probably due to the price. Reaction to the new model is mixed on the "Classic" Defender forum. TBH l think Land Rover were aiming for a different market with the new one, and in that respect they seem to have succeeded as there is a huge order backlog.

The cheapest is the 90 Commercial at £48,000. Land Rover have deleted all the cheaper versions including the D200 which was £3,000 less.
The cheapest car version is now £58,000!! Delve into the massive options list and you can easily spend another £10,000
ln addition the Commercial comes in white and any other colour is an extra £1,000

Delivery for the Commercial is quoted at 18 months which doesn't really bother me because it will give me more time to save up, the more l can put in the lower the monthly payments.

l am still in two minds, £50,000 is a lot for a car in my book, although being a business purchase it will be tax deductible.
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15 Jan 2022 09:54 #241157 by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic New Defender
If you are a known producer and you sell everything that you make, why would you need to advertise?

Just seen an advert on TV for a Defender.

Or am I being cynical?

Roger

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