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Re:Re:Driving lights and foglights. Versions over world

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14 Aug 2020 22:02 - 14 Aug 2020 22:25 #226674 by lookonimages
Was about to order a set of daily driving lights led from martin.

Our foglights are just foglights. Only one bulb

Daily driving light is part of main lights and is already "led"
Only daulight running lights are switch on and no foglight.
If you set daylight driving lights "on" there is about a sqaure at the botom section of main light that lights up as "daily driving lights." Foglights will be off

Daily driving light on and foglights on, then the square block light up as well as the two foglights in the bumper section.

If you put on the mainlights, the mainlight turn on and square area turn off
Just thought it is interesting to see the difference.



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15 Aug 2020 03:25 - 15 Aug 2020 04:04 #226675 by GeorgeC
Australia calling, getting in early before the UK and 99 other Nations reply with 101 opinions.

For me to have only the Daylight Running Lights "ON" I have the engine running and my switches set as below:



The Owners Manual, on Page 2-56, gives all the switch combinations required for any other, Night-time and Position Lights.

I think you may be confusing the DRLs with the Front Position Lights: See Page 6-48, #2 Front LED Position Light.

Edit: By using this switch position in the photo, this is the only way I can get the 'Day-time Dashboard Lights' to work as they are controlled by the dash-top sensor. In any other Switch positions, it reverts back to the 'Night-time Dashboard Lights', there you can use the little bar menu in the middle screen.
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15 Aug 2020 04:53 - 15 Aug 2020 04:54 #226678 by mlines
As GeorgeC says, Day Running Lights (DRL) are not controlled by switches or humans. They are an EU (and other areas) legal requirement and come on when the engine is running and the main lights are off.

For the EU we have headlights with integrated "side marker" lights, these are controlled by the switches on the steering wheel. We have fog lights in the lower bumper with a fog light bulb (again controlled by the steering wheel switch) and a DRL bulb (controlled by the vehicle electronics)

I know some markets do not have the DRLs in the fog lamp housing and do not have the mounting point to fit them.

You can check if you have them by turning all lights off on the steering wheel switches and starting the engine, they will then light up.

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235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
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15 Aug 2020 07:10 #226681 by lookonimages
In SA it is not legal requirement to have DRL though 80% news cars do come with them.
So when I start Jimny, all switches off, there is no lights "on".

To get the light in the red square to be on there is a specific setting on to set switch to.
So it seems that you as driver have choice to use them or not. The red square light inside main lights is more of a "parking" light.

I am going to try an find a set of UK fog lights that incorporate the daylight running lights to install. Will add own wiring if wiring is not there already.

If the wiring is not there I will add a controler like this that automatically switch on lights when voltage above 13v and switch lights off when engine is switched off.




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15 Aug 2020 07:15 #226682 by mlines
I can get the UK fog light units and also the short lead ( if you find the wiring loom has the DRL connector in it

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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15 Aug 2020 07:52 #226684 by Roger Fairclough
Interesting that the column lighting switch and the indicators are on the right.

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15 Aug 2020 08:16 #226690 by Busta
This might sound overly simple, but whatever vehicle I'm using I always drive with the headlights on dipped beam. It makes it very visible any time of day and night in any conditions. Both front and rear lights are on, no need to think about different settings for different scenarios, no need for fancy light patterns that distract other drivers etc.

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15 Aug 2020 08:22 - 15 Aug 2020 08:22 #226691 by mlines
Combined EU spec DRL and fog lamp units are £106 each and the wiring stub ( only needed if you have the DRL wiring in the loom, I suspect it's easier to wire it in yourself) is £64 each

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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15 Aug 2020 08:28 #226693 by lookonimages

mlines wrote: Combined EU spec DRL and fog lamp units are £106 each and the wiring stub ( only needed if you have the DRL wiring in the loom, I suspect it's easier to wire it in yourself) is £64 each

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15 Aug 2020 08:32 #226694 by lookonimages

Busta wrote: This might sound overly simple, but whatever vehicle I'm using I always drive with the headlights on dipped beam. It makes it very visible any time of day and night in any conditions. Both front and rear lights are on, no need to think about different settings for different scenarios, no need for fancy light patterns that distract other drivers etc.

Yes i now do the same. But you have to switch lights on and off every time. If you leave light switch on and you open door then it beep. Dont want to do that.

What I do currently that lights are always on on dim, is that I put a cover over light sensitivity sensor on dash and put light switch on "auto".

So when I start jimny the lights are on on dim.
No need to think about "lights"

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15 Aug 2020 09:05 #226695 by GeorgeC

Roger Fairclough wrote: Interesting that the column lighting switch and the indicators are on the right. Roger


But of course, we drive on the left and we're still British! :)

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15 Aug 2020 09:53 #226699 by Roger Fairclough
In the Landcruiser I did the same as Buster. In Tonka I tried with lamp switch on auto but dipped beam would come on when going under trees or anywhere in shaded areas. I was criticised by one driver for flashing at him so I reverted back to DRL's but bought the LED ones when I found that Martin sold them. They are a big improvement and hopefully solve the problem of other drivers not seeing me, but it doesn't solve the problem of no DRL's for the back.

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