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All Terrain Tyre Comparisons

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01 Mar 2019 19:34 #203989 by Guy 2
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Very fair point Lambert.

I guess I probably won't buy exactly the same tyre for the Jimny when I get to my second set, because by then I will have refined my own particular priorities. In the meantime I reckon it's a "Generic AT with good longitudinal rain channels, but with sufficient sidewall strength to resist cuts most of the time". (Those two objectives probably conflict to some extent.)
I'll look up the tyres you mention - as I've not read about them as yet.

When I know you better we can compare picture of our respective 'navels'!

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01 Mar 2019 20:13 #203990 by Lambert
Ad08r are a fairly specialist fast road/track day tyre with is what I happen to be into.

The other thing is a tyre that is tough like you're after is also going to be quite firm on road as a result of the sidewall being much thicker/having more plys. This can offer some quite harsh road manners and the additional unsprung mass isn't ideal either.

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01 Mar 2019 21:15 #203991 by Guy 2
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Understood - and another good point.

Frankly, I am not too worried about NVH. I need tyres that clear water on tarmac and are as strong as they can be without affecting dynamics to the point of it being a safety issue. From what I've read (which may or may not be right), both the Geolandar G015 and Cooper AT3 are road biased but still reasonably strong. If so that's probably fine. If I have the occasional puncture off road that's fixable - just as long as it isn't two punctures at the same time!

Am I reading you right Lambert - are you into racing the Jimny? If so, I'd love a link to any vids!

Have fun - and nice to chat.

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01 Mar 2019 22:07 #203997 by Gadget
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Are you just changing the brand, or resizing as well? I put G015s in 215/75/15 on my Gen4 and they've noticeably blunted performance and economy. I'd imagine that an even heavier tyre like a BFG KO2 would be even worse.

They do look great though (although I'm probably the only person that will even notice!), So I'm willing to suffer for the aesthetics.... For now. :)
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01 Mar 2019 22:39 #203998 by Andy2640
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That's slightly worrying. To what degree has the performance been caped Gadget?

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01 Mar 2019 22:53 #203999 by Guy 2
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Changing the Brand/tread pattern/compound - not the size. When I started all of this I was wavering between same size and 215/75/15. But comment from Lambert on unsprung mass and yours on blunted performance puts me down firmly on the side of 195/80/15.

I agree 215/75/15s look great, but dynamics more important to me than looks when the chips are down.

KO2s not available in 195/80/15 anyway, so I am going to have to go with a lighter construction. From reading reviews (the Australian ones involving kangaroos and dodgy tyre merchants are a riot!) it looks as if the Grabber AT3 is likely to be the next-strongest to the KO2 - but, by all accounts, it is not so good on wet tarmac. Unsurprising really as the block tread style doesn't have good longitudinal grooves for dispersing rain.

So, for the moment at least, that gives me the option of G015s like you, but in the smaller size, or Cooper AT3 Sports in the same size. Good tyres both.

I'd be interested in your experience in the extreme wet - particularly how the Gen 4 reacts to hydroplaning on G015s i.e. does it say straight and stable.

Thanks again - your interest is really helpful.

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