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Tyre Sealant
30 Dec 2018 16:00 #199718
by NelsonB
Tyre Sealant was created by NelsonB
Hi everyone!
Does anybody have experience with tyre sealants, like the Air-Seal? Did it work properly with low pressure, like 10 psi (sand tracks)? Did not clog the tyre valve?
regards,
Nelson
Does anybody have experience with tyre sealants, like the Air-Seal? Did it work properly with low pressure, like 10 psi (sand tracks)? Did not clog the tyre valve?
regards,
Nelson
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30 Dec 2018 18:44 - 30 Dec 2018 18:48 #199733
by Scimike
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Replied by Scimike on topic Tyre Sealant
No experience directly of AirSeal products, but I have used Slime and Stans in my job as a cycle mech. The tyre sealants I use both act to reduce punctures in that if the tyre or tube is damaged the sealant solution is forced out by tyre pressure at which point they congeal sealing the air leak. The slime product can contain larger leaks due to fibrous material within the solution, Stans is more liquid (like milk).
That is the only similarity, after this both products have different functions.
Stans being very liquid is used to seal tubeless bike tyres onto the tubeless rim. This allows the rider to run the tyres at reduced pressure off road, but it is important to note that the tyre and rim are both designed for tubeless application. As such the tyre is held tight on the rim and will not easily break the bead at low pressures or indeed with no air in it.
Slime is used in tubed tyres (cycle) and some automotive tubeless applications. It is used to seal the leak of a puncture in a correctly inflated tyre. In these cases the tyre is not held tight on the rim and at low pressures the tyre could "roll off the rim".
So within the cycling world we only run reduced pressure with rims / tyres designed for tubeless operation with Stans (or similar).
I guess this is no help at all, but it keeps the thread at the top for longer.
Oh and yes the can clog up the valve, but you can reduce this by only inflating the tyre with the valve between 9 and 3 o'clock. Inflation with the valve at the bottom of the tyre will blow the solution through the valve as you connect the pump.
That is the only similarity, after this both products have different functions.
Stans being very liquid is used to seal tubeless bike tyres onto the tubeless rim. This allows the rider to run the tyres at reduced pressure off road, but it is important to note that the tyre and rim are both designed for tubeless application. As such the tyre is held tight on the rim and will not easily break the bead at low pressures or indeed with no air in it.
Slime is used in tubed tyres (cycle) and some automotive tubeless applications. It is used to seal the leak of a puncture in a correctly inflated tyre. In these cases the tyre is not held tight on the rim and at low pressures the tyre could "roll off the rim".
So within the cycling world we only run reduced pressure with rims / tyres designed for tubeless operation with Stans (or similar).
I guess this is no help at all, but it keeps the thread at the top for longer.
Oh and yes the can clog up the valve, but you can reduce this by only inflating the tyre with the valve between 9 and 3 o'clock. Inflation with the valve at the bottom of the tyre will blow the solution through the valve as you connect the pump.
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Last edit: 30 Dec 2018 18:48 by Scimike.
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30 Dec 2018 23:10 #199743
by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic Tyre Sealant
We use a product called Oko in agricultural tyres. It's great for getting a bit of extra life out of tyres that are riddled with punctures, but on higher speed applications like car tyres it can cause wheel balance issues, which I imagine would be quite exaggerated on a Jimny. I certainly wouldn't put it in a tyre unless I had a puncture I couldn't fix.
Never had any problems with it clogging the valve. Obviously you remove the valve core to put it in the tyre, but once it's in there you can inflate and deflate as normal. I can't see any problems using it at 10psi, but then I can't see any benefit either unless, like I say, you are having problems with lots of punctures. But I run BFGoodrich tyres and punctures are very very rare.
Never had any problems with it clogging the valve. Obviously you remove the valve core to put it in the tyre, but once it's in there you can inflate and deflate as normal. I can't see any problems using it at 10psi, but then I can't see any benefit either unless, like I say, you are having problems with lots of punctures. But I run BFGoodrich tyres and punctures are very very rare.
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31 Dec 2018 00:07 #199744
by Jimx5
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI've had a 'stop-n-go' kit in the boot of my other car for possibly 5 years now and used it only once on my sons Celica.
Whether it would work on A/T tyres i couldn't say but on ordinary road tyres it does the job.
Whether it would work on A/T tyres i couldn't say but on ordinary road tyres it does the job.
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31 Dec 2018 01:34 #199746
by NelsonB
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I run BFG ATs, but I am starting to have punctures, with fence nails. Some times we have then near beaches, when use very low tyre pressures.....afraid the gel could leak by the rim side.....
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31 Dec 2018 08:56 #199753
by Scimike
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Replied by Scimike on topic Tyre Sealant
For punctures with nails a Slime type product would help but in a tyre with low pressure its function will be reduced.
www.slime.com/uk/products/lawn-garden/sealants/tire-sealant.php
www.slime.com/uk/products/lawn-garden/sealants/tire-sealant.php
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