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hi all im doing a 3" lift . need help
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09 Jun 2010 21:33 - 09 Jun 2010 21:33 #3595
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Frank Pickles insurance gets cheaper the more mods you ahve
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10 Jun 2010 05:42 #3596
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:hi all im doing a 3" lift . need help
You describe your problem as being the axle hitting the ground.
Lifting the suspension, either a 2" or 3" lift doesn't change the height of the axle from the ground, it changes the distance between the axle and the chassis.
Therefore, as other people have said, you will need larger tyres/wheels. Standard tyres are about 28 inches in diameter. FOr every inch in diameter larger you go with tyres you only get 0.5 inch lift!. So going from 28 inch to 31 inch tyres gives you 3 inches of extra tyre but only 1.5 inches of lift. And 31 inch tyres on a Jimny is a pretty big modification. You would need a 3" lift to get them under the wheel arches, a bit of tin bashing and arch cutting to stop them rubbing and a Rocklobster style transfer box to turn them. The Rocklobster box will need a new mounting kit and possibly replacemnet propshafts and an electronc converter for the speedo.
So its financially a very slippery slope and a lot of work!.
There are a number of specialist insurers out there dealing with modified vehicles. I am with Sureterm, however a lot of these type of insurers assume its not your daily driving vehicle and therefore only does a very limited mileage.
Martin
Lifting the suspension, either a 2" or 3" lift doesn't change the height of the axle from the ground, it changes the distance between the axle and the chassis.
Therefore, as other people have said, you will need larger tyres/wheels. Standard tyres are about 28 inches in diameter. FOr every inch in diameter larger you go with tyres you only get 0.5 inch lift!. So going from 28 inch to 31 inch tyres gives you 3 inches of extra tyre but only 1.5 inches of lift. And 31 inch tyres on a Jimny is a pretty big modification. You would need a 3" lift to get them under the wheel arches, a bit of tin bashing and arch cutting to stop them rubbing and a Rocklobster style transfer box to turn them. The Rocklobster box will need a new mounting kit and possibly replacemnet propshafts and an electronc converter for the speedo.
So its financially a very slippery slope and a lot of work!.
There are a number of specialist insurers out there dealing with modified vehicles. I am with Sureterm, however a lot of these type of insurers assume its not your daily driving vehicle and therefore only does a very limited mileage.
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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10 Jun 2010 07:20 #3598
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Replied by maverick on topic Re:hi all im doing a 3" lift . need help
Well said Martin ...
To summarise - thats a LOT OF CASH just to get your axle up by 1.5inches!!
I have upped to a 3" Spring Lift, i was lucky as i already had a Rob Storr 6:1 SJ Transfer box (from my old SJ413) ... so only needed propshaft kit (from Rob Storr) for the Jimny, (armoury), and 4xES3000's (from engineering@ntlworld.com - i think they trade as JimnyBits (??), and I got the ex-Rgino Ray Lifted springs from a bloke on Difflock.
Oh,and larger Rims (GV's at 16"), larger Tyres ...
Is it worth it -- YES, YES, YES ...
To summarise - thats a LOT OF CASH just to get your axle up by 1.5inches!!
I have upped to a 3" Spring Lift, i was lucky as i already had a Rob Storr 6:1 SJ Transfer box (from my old SJ413) ... so only needed propshaft kit (from Rob Storr) for the Jimny, (armoury), and 4xES3000's (from engineering@ntlworld.com - i think they trade as JimnyBits (??), and I got the ex-Rgino Ray Lifted springs from a bloke on Difflock.
Oh,and larger Rims (GV's at 16"), larger Tyres ...
Is it worth it -- YES, YES, YES ...
Jalapeño, IISY?
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10 Jun 2010 07:24 #3599
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hi mlines very good info im 25 years old and drive a vauxhall astra to when i can drag myself out of jimny its loads more fun to drive makes me . im thinking about 2 " lift now pro comp are these good and then 235/75/15 tyres ? my jimnys auto as i lost the use in my right arm 3 years ago i was on a motorbike and a woman pulled out on me. i find it very easy to drive on or off road so whats it going to be like with these mods?????? thanx
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10 Jun 2010 07:30 #3600
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re:hi all im doing a 3" lift . need help
Well there is some good news for you then. With an Auto Jimny you might get away without modifying the transfer box. Auto Jimnys have lower ratios in the differentials and the torque converter action of the Autobox and lack of a clutch means that it should turn the wheels even though they are bigger.
Therefore I think you will get away with a 2" lift and 235/75/15 tyres. Mine has those size tyres and there is a bit of rubbing but I think my Pro-comp lift has sagged a bit (nothing to do with my weight, of course).
Would love to have had an auto, just going to have to change my clutch (again!)
Martin
Therefore I think you will get away with a 2" lift and 235/75/15 tyres. Mine has those size tyres and there is a bit of rubbing but I think my Pro-comp lift has sagged a bit (nothing to do with my weight, of course).
Would love to have had an auto, just going to have to change my clutch (again!)
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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10 Jun 2010 07:43 #3601
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Replied by ypvs jimny 350 on topic Re:hi all im doing a 3" lift . need help
yer she pulls off very well its a y reg 1328cc . id dint think them big tyres iv got would fit but they were only £80 and there fitted on sj rims. iv bin taking it offroading at monsal head and stanage moor. how ofton do u have to put a new cluch in ur jimny?
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