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K14C in 99 G-Series Swap

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11 Dec 2022 13:52 #246300 by Abort Abort
New to Jimnys. Wanted Suzuki to drop the K14C into the JB74, but still hasn't happened. Instead picked up a very cheap G series with G16B swap. Motor has seized. 

Problem is G13BB and G16B in Australia are silly expensive and bloody hard to find. Plus they are all old, tired, high kms lumps and I'm not entirely convinced that they run properly with the 'easy swap'. 

For considerably less I can get a very very low mileage K14C with all the ancillaries. 

Now I know it's somewhat possible to get an M series engine and mate it to an R7ME and that will get you a reasonable way there to an M series swap. Liana M18As are nearly as bad as G16Bs to find. M16As and M15As are easier. But at the same time I'll need a fair bit of custom work plus a dedicated ECU anyway. Plus the R7ME goes for a packet too because it is desirable for VVT owners. So this route doesn't seem much cheaper than the K14C swap, potentially. 

So for a K14C swap I'm seeing that I'll need:

- custom engine mounts- Custom bell housing adaption 
- Custom fly wheel 
- Pipe work for cooling system- Sump and oil pickup (K15B may or may not work)
- Fan for cooling- Stand alone ECU and wiring up as well as creating a custom map (some may become available) 

Is there anything else I am not thinking about that I should be? The K14C swap is definitely sounding more appealing than wasting more money on tired old G16Bs. 

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11 Dec 2022 13:56 #246301 by Abort Abort
I'll also just add how much I see people doing M swaps and then turbo kits and the costs involved there. The K14C seems like a prime candidate for a bit more work and money on getting it in, but potentially a better all round package.

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11 Dec 2022 14:15 #246302 by Old Neil

Abort Abort wrote: I'll also just add how much I see people doing M swaps and then turbo kits and the costs involved there. The K14C seems like a prime candidate for a bit more work and money on getting it in, but potentially a better all round package.

Hi,what you are proposing is extremely difficult, hope you have a wealth of mechanical skills, haven't heard of anyone grafting a K14 to early jimny
Which side of Australia are you, I'm in the west
Why can't you re build your seized motor
Be interesting how it works out

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11 Dec 2022 14:31 #246303 by Abort Abort
I think I do ok in that department. No I haven’t heard of anyone doing it either, I did search a lot.

Thing is an M series swap into a G series like this is really no more straightforward. People have done J20As as well and all sorts of other things. In that context this doesn’t seem all that bad. It’s just there’s not much existing information on it.

I’m in the West too.

I can rebuild it, that’s a distinct possibility. The cost of a rebuild is fairly pricey too and then I still end up with a rebuilt G16B which may crack its block or head etc. I’m not completely set on this path, but it feels like the extra cost might be worth it. Spending on making it compatible with Suzuki’s latest series of engines also means many years of viable donor engines in the future.

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11 Dec 2022 17:46 #246307 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic K14C in 99 G-Series Swap
The M series engines mate to R72 gearboxes, as that combination was fitted to 2000-2004 models. I believe the bell housing bolt pattern is the same as the G?
Aside from the ECU, going to an M series is a very straight forward swap and every part you need is available off the shelf.
If you're certain you want to deviate from what's easy then why stick with Suzuki engines? There are loads of other engines that would work great and be no more work to install than the K14C

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11 Dec 2022 22:47 #246311 by Old Neil

Abort Abort wrote: I think I do ok in that department. No I haven’t heard of anyone doing it either, I did search a lot.

Thing is an M series swap into a G series like this is really no more straightforward. People have done J20As as well and all sorts of other things. In that context this doesn’t seem all that bad. It’s just there’s not much existing information on it.

I’m in the West too.

I can rebuild it, that’s a distinct possibility. The cost of a rebuild is fairly pricey too and then I still end up with a rebuilt G16B which may crack its block or head etc. I’m not completely set on this path, but it feels like the extra cost might be worth it. Spending on making it compatible with Suzuki’s latest series of engines also means many years of viable donor engines in the future.

Go have a chat with Steph at suzishop Beckenham

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