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03 Dec 2019 06:56 #216176 by laminarpanda
Hi all,

We recently moved to NZ and I’m looking to buy a new car that would to suit our future adventures, I’ve come across the Jimny and it looks like it could be perfect for us. However my main question is about attaching 2 kayaks on the roof. The kayaks are about 5.5m long and weight around 27 kg each. I’ve done a bit of research and have come across some site and a few posts on this forum, but It’s still not very clear.
Bear in mind, this is quite a new endeavour for me. I lived in London for 12 years, and didn’t have a car there, so I’m slowly getting back into the motorised world again. ;)
What do you think, is it realistic? Or should I be looking for a bigger vehicle?
I don’t mind spending some money on good roof racks (which I’ll probably be asking for recommendations later if I go ahead with the Jimny! :) )
Thanks!

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03 Dec 2019 07:18 #216177 by Lambert
Welcome to the forum. This is a major can of worms. On the older Jimny upto 2018 there's a limit of 30kg on the roof rails partly because of their construction and partly to keep the centre of gravity low on a narrow vehicle. This is extended to the new Jimny if using the factory roof bars for the same reasons. That said the actual roof structure of the car doesn't seem to have a specific load limit and people have successfully mounted all sorts of things on none Suzuki mounting hardware. The problem is going to come if you have a collision and a loss adjuster gets involved. Regardless of what you have declared to the insurance they will attempt to lay your misfortune back on your choice to ignore the factory roof system loading limits.

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03 Dec 2019 07:20 - 03 Dec 2019 07:21 #216178 by yakuza
45kg max weight up there mostly because of the cars general weight distrubution and the plastic roof bar ends.

But a friend of mine has one or two kayaks on his Jimny no problem for short trips and if you are careful. It is never a racing car anyways. :)

use proper mounts of course and be aware of the mounts and cross bars weight.

edit: 30 kg? not 45 lambert?

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03 Dec 2019 07:30 - 03 Dec 2019 07:35 #216179 by Lambert
Definitely 30kg on UK specific gen3 cars. That is a static load too. The dynamic load will be higher.

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03 Dec 2019 07:57 #216180 by laminarpanda
Hey Lambert,
Thanks so much for the quick reply!
Yes, it seems to be a bit of a can of worms!
I’ve found a lot of different information and that’s why I thought I would ask here! ;)
Thanks for the info, it’s useful to know and what to consider.

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03 Dec 2019 07:59 #216181 by laminarpanda
Hey Yakuza,
That’s useful to know! Indeed, it wouldn’t be for very long of fast journeys! ;)
On the Suzuki website they fo mention max 30kg using their own mounts. That’s why I was wondering if it would apply to other mounts.
Thanks.

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03 Dec 2019 09:06 #216183 by CC Baxter
I'm not sure that weight is the only consideration here. Think about the sail area of a pair of 5.5 mtr kayaks (not to mention overhang). You could well finish up with a vehicle that is not very pleasant to drive and very difficult to park. In your position I would seriosly think about a trailer or better still a 4x4 pickup.
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03 Dec 2019 09:21 #216184 by Lambert
Good point that. In the UK there is a maximum rearward protection limit of something like 1.5m off the top of my head. Don't know about NZ but it is probably something similar.

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03 Dec 2019 09:26 #216185 by Lambert
Just had a look and less than a meter is ok between 1 and 2 metre needs the end clearly marked beyond 2 needs special attention and notified authorities. Check out the limitations for your country.

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03 Dec 2019 09:43 - 03 Dec 2019 09:46 #216188 by Lambert
Sorry posted a legitimate answer to a deleted message.

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03 Dec 2019 18:02 #216215 by Scimike
The overhang and general size of said Kayaks is more the issue, you can put plenty on the roof of a GEN 3, even the soft top.
Here's an alternative:-

images.app.goo.gl/JVRT7iCBa2DVr9VJ9

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03 Dec 2019 18:54 #216218 by laminarpanda

Scimike wrote: The overhang and general size of said Kayaks is more the issue, you can put plenty on the roof of a GEN 3, even the soft top.
Here's an alternative:-

images.app.goo.gl/JVRT7iCBa2DVr9VJ9

Have fun and don't sink.
Mike


Haha. That looks fun, but I’m not sure it will suit our needs! :laugh:

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