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To buy or not to buy - Front Ball Joint/MOT Advisories
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02 Jan 2020 16:23 - 02 Jan 2020 16:27 #216936
by Deverill
To buy or not to buy - Front Ball Joint/MOT Advisories was created by Deverill
Hi guys!
I'm new to the Jimny but after some research I think it could be the 4x4 for me! I've seen a 2006 model at a garage in my local area for £3500. It has 90,000 on the clock and is MOT'd until July 2020. Looking at it's previous 2 mots it has these advisories:
2019
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint dust cover damaged or deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt off drop arm (2.1.3 (g) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge worn slightly outer edge (5.2.3 (e))
Nearside Front Oil leak, but not excessive swivel hub area (8.4.1 (a) (i))
Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
2018
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover damaged or deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt off steering box drop arm (2.1.3 (g) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play very slight (5.3.4 (a) (i))
The Ball joint and the oil leak seem like red flags to me but i'm no expert so just wanted to get some advice on whether to consider it or not and if so what to looking for when viewing
Thanks is advance!
I'm new to the Jimny but after some research I think it could be the 4x4 for me! I've seen a 2006 model at a garage in my local area for £3500. It has 90,000 on the clock and is MOT'd until July 2020. Looking at it's previous 2 mots it has these advisories:
2019
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Offside Front Track rod end ball joint dust cover damaged or deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt off drop arm (2.1.3 (g) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Nearside Front Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge worn slightly outer edge (5.2.3 (e))
Nearside Front Oil leak, but not excessive swivel hub area (8.4.1 (a) (i))
Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play (5.3.4 (a) (i))
2018
Repair as soon as possible (minor defects):
Offside Track rod end ball joint dust cover damaged or deteriorated, but preventing the ingress of dirt off steering box drop arm (2.1.3 (g) (i))
Monitor and repair if necessary (advisories):
Offside Front Anti-roll bar linkage ball joint has slight play very slight (5.3.4 (a) (i))
The Ball joint and the oil leak seem like red flags to me but i'm no expert so just wanted to get some advice on whether to consider it or not and if so what to looking for when viewing
Thanks is advance!
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02 Jan 2020 16:38 #216938
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic To buy or not to buy - Front Ball Joint/MOT Advisories
Swivel hub oil leak means that the swivel bearings are worn. Not unusual, easy DIY fix, not too expensive if you are paying.
Ball joint dust cover is perished, has been for years, not expensive to replace.
Anti-roll bar drop link has play in it, not an issue, a new one is easy to fit, but better buy a decent one, the worn one will outlast a £7 eBay special.
Budget for the repairs, and buy it if the gearbox is quiet and there is no rust under the headlights, in the tool tray, at the back or front of the rear arches or under the rear seats.
No idea if the price is right, I got stupid money for my 2001 as a trade in, and I'm sure it sold for even more stupid money- probably more than I paid for it in 2009.
Ball joint dust cover is perished, has been for years, not expensive to replace.
Anti-roll bar drop link has play in it, not an issue, a new one is easy to fit, but better buy a decent one, the worn one will outlast a £7 eBay special.
Budget for the repairs, and buy it if the gearbox is quiet and there is no rust under the headlights, in the tool tray, at the back or front of the rear arches or under the rear seats.
No idea if the price is right, I got stupid money for my 2001 as a trade in, and I'm sure it sold for even more stupid money- probably more than I paid for it in 2009.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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02 Jan 2020 16:51 #216939
by Lambert
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
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Replied by Lambert on topic To buy or not to buy - Front Ball Joint/MOT Advisories
Welcome to the forum. The ball joints are relatively simple to do but are probably not going to play fair when it comes to getting the old ones undone. The oil leak on the swivel is a early indicator of kingpin bearings being due for replacement. Sounds worse than it is .having done kingpin bearings on my drive a few times I have got the procedure down to about an hour or a side. There's a how to guide in the Jimny information section on the top banner of the page that you can read up on. Alternatively a competent garage familiar with Jimny should be able to get you sorted for a couple of hours labour. As to the car itself be aware that 2006 is in the range for gearbox rebuilds 05 to 09 and also look for rust in the boot floor jack storage area and also behind the headlights.
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02 Jan 2020 16:53 #216940
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Facade, you obviously type faster than I do.
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02 Jan 2020 17:27 #216943
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Replied by Riccy on topic To buy or not to buy - Front Ball Joint/MOT Advisories
All of the MOT stuff is simple really. as mentioned, rust is the only thing to worry about really.
The gearbox issue mentioned is shown by bearing noises in certain gears when on and off the throttle. Its often caused by the intermediate prop shaft leaking (or the seal), leading to bearing failure. Therefore check under the car where the gearbox joins to the transfer box for oil spatter or oil around the area after a test run if its not got history of a rebuild. A rebuild is £500-700, plus labour of removing the box and refitting generally.
The gearbox issue mentioned is shown by bearing noises in certain gears when on and off the throttle. Its often caused by the intermediate prop shaft leaking (or the seal), leading to bearing failure. Therefore check under the car where the gearbox joins to the transfer box for oil spatter or oil around the area after a test run if its not got history of a rebuild. A rebuild is £500-700, plus labour of removing the box and refitting generally.
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
www.youtube.com/user/riclemus
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