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poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
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03 Jul 2019 13:47 #210548
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poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it? was created by NineCherries
hello, who has fitted poly bushes to their panhard rods? any issues, any particular brand better than another?
from what i've read on here you cant just buy the standard bushes from suzuki it only complete rods they sell hence why im looking at poly bushes.
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Tony
from what i've read on here you cant just buy the standard bushes from suzuki it only complete rods they sell hence why im looking at poly bushes.
TIA
Tony
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03 Jul 2019 16:29 #210551
by sniper
Replied by sniper on topic poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
I had read that Superpro had caused issues with vibration (adding to wheel wobble issues ) so I went to Polybush and have been happy with the results, only 5k or so I can't report on wear.
Handling wise they are a non issue, so they must work well. My inner "Sainz" surfaces often and I love a thrash through tight and twisty bits.
When I change direction I can feel the flex in the sidewall of the tyre, there is no slap or bang as weight moves from one side to the other.....
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Handling wise they are a non issue, so they must work well. My inner "Sainz" surfaces often and I love a thrash through tight and twisty bits.
When I change direction I can feel the flex in the sidewall of the tyre, there is no slap or bang as weight moves from one side to the other.....
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03 Jul 2019 17:27 #210554
by Riccy
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Replied by Riccy on topic poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
Ive had floflex and superpro. The floflex were softer, but only slightly. Both seem to last well with no undue effects on driving.
On the radius arms ive gone back to stock rubber for more comfort however :laugh:
On the radius arms ive gone back to stock rubber for more comfort however :laugh:
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Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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03 Jul 2019 17:47 - 03 Jul 2019 17:47 #210555
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Replied by NineCherries on topic poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
Thanks. I was only going for poly in the panhard as I couldnt find standard rubber anywhere.
From your experience guys, how much harsher are poly bushes in the radius arms?
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From your experience guys, how much harsher are poly bushes in the radius arms?
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04 Jul 2019 05:27 #210573
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Replied by Riccy on topic poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
that makes sense. Fitting the polybushes in the panhards makes little to no difference in reality.
The radius arms with poly bushes is a bit more obvious. Its mainly road noise and vibrations. much more noticeable difference off-road. More steering feel, but more shaking as well.
Some subscribe to the theory that polybushes limit the flex of the vehicle, compared to rubber. I never found a problem with either really. Ultimate flex is best achieved with 'Johnny joints' or 'Rose joints', but these are another level of harsh and seem to wear out fairly quickly compared to bushings. They are also noisy things so not for me!
The radius arms with poly bushes is a bit more obvious. Its mainly road noise and vibrations. much more noticeable difference off-road. More steering feel, but more shaking as well.
Some subscribe to the theory that polybushes limit the flex of the vehicle, compared to rubber. I never found a problem with either really. Ultimate flex is best achieved with 'Johnny joints' or 'Rose joints', but these are another level of harsh and seem to wear out fairly quickly compared to bushings. They are also noisy things so not for me!
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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04 Jul 2019 08:08 #210584
by kirkynut
The underdog often starts the fight, and occasionally the upper dog deserves to win - Edgar Watson Howe.
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Replied by kirkynut on topic poly bushes for panhard rods, are they worth it?
With the panhard rod bushes, I found Super Pro to be too hard and promote death wobble. As soon as I swapped them with the orange ones from the Big Jimny shop the problem was solved.
I have Super Pro poly bushes everywhere else. They tighten up the ride on the road without being uncomfortable, so would suit Carlos Sainz, I mean Sniper. However, those who use them heavily off road, whilst not suffering from any loss of flex, have found that they can promote the radius arm mounts to tear away at either end if there is a slight weakness caused by the onset of corrosion.
The flip side is that poly bushes last much longer than rubberlastic ones. So you pay your money and make your choice.
I'd say for a mostly road use Jimnjam, go poly all round but if you go off tarmac a lot then buy a press and get used to changing rubber ones!
Kirkynut
I have Super Pro poly bushes everywhere else. They tighten up the ride on the road without being uncomfortable, so would suit Carlos Sainz, I mean Sniper. However, those who use them heavily off road, whilst not suffering from any loss of flex, have found that they can promote the radius arm mounts to tear away at either end if there is a slight weakness caused by the onset of corrosion.
The flip side is that poly bushes last much longer than rubberlastic ones. So you pay your money and make your choice.
I'd say for a mostly road use Jimnjam, go poly all round but if you go off tarmac a lot then buy a press and get used to changing rubber ones!
Kirkynut
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