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27 Jun 2015 20:46 #146727 by trextr7monkey
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As I recall the Tim Dutton amphibious Jimny was a disaster resulting in a court case. Good luck with this although I think Jimny will perform best as a terrestrial machine. If I was planning an amphicar I'd be looking at the Argocat for inspiration

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27 Jun 2015 20:55 #146728 by Daft Waders
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Can't believe your jimny is way better condition than mine and your making it into a f***ing boat :laugh:

Can't wait to see the out come, your crazy :silly:

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27 Jun 2015 21:18 #146730 by minibbb
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Was it a cat D? Can I be cheeky and ask you what it set you back to buy?

I often look on copart at jimnys and most are knackered on there and still fetch good money

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27 Jun 2015 21:20 - 27 Jun 2015 21:25 #146731 by funkyjimny
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They've been making them for years ? First based on the SJ and then on the jimny. Rhino Ray used to get new Jimny body shells from them once they had taken all the mechanicals off them. I've not heard anything bad about them, have you ?

EDIT.. just googled it, court case in the Lake District ...

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27 Jun 2015 23:47 - 27 Jun 2015 23:52 #146737 by ZukracerV6
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trextr7monkey wrote: As I recall the Tim Dutton amphibious Jimny was a disaster resulting in a court case. Good luck with this although I think Jimny will perform best as a terrestrial machine. If I was planning an amphicar I'd be looking at the Argocat for inspiration


Tim is very upfront and open about the court case and even publishes it on the website.

Tim Dutton Court Case

You can read it yourself and google other stories, I've meet the man and seen the machine and made my own decision. to date he has made about 230 ampibous cars, and hundreds possibly thousands other other kit cars with one notable court case. Every story has two side. You can make your own decision, I have!

I've driven argocats both on land and water and while they are an amazing go anywhere machine there really not ideal for driving long distance etc.

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27 Jun 2015 23:56 #146738 by ZukracerV6
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minibbb wrote: Was it a cat D? Can I be cheeky and ask you what it set you back to buy?

I often look on copart at jimnys and most are knackered on there and still fetch good money


I happy to say! With the buyers fee, I paid £2,600 its a CAT C previous repair

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28 Jun 2015 08:00 #146744 by funkyjimny
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Yes I read the details on another site which seemed a bit odd, selling something not fit for purpose on sea or land when he has built and sold so many, maybe it was just a 'Friday' car and a picky owner?

I remember the kit cars he used to sell 30 years ago, nearly bought one at one time!

Good luck with it and have fun. You have a PM from me.

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28 Jun 2015 09:09 #146749 by Busta
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funkyjimny wrote: Yes I read the details on another site which seemed a bit odd, selling something not fit for purpose on sea or land when he has built and sold so many, maybe it was just a 'Friday' car and a picky owner?


It's worth reading the bit on his site. He sent out a standard car which was to be inspected, returned and then adapted to be used by a company as a tour boat for paying customers- obviously a few more safety features required for that sort of thing. They sued him before he'd even made the adaptations. So it wasn't the finished product for that particular application, and that's where the 'not fit for purpose' bit arose from.

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28 Jun 2015 19:32 #146802 by Rhinoman
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The courts obviously didn't agree with Tim Dutton's version of events but it does seem a bit strange that they have made so many, apparently without any other major incident. The earlier SJ version was being manufactured in the US.

Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.

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28 Jun 2015 20:16 #146808 by trextr7monkey
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Dutton version doesn’t tally with court version and as said he should have known what he was doing and been capable of communcating clearly with clients.
His kit cars tended to be well designed and functional but they were without exception fugly and lacking style and aerodynamics so perhaps boats might be a better bet!

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30 Jun 2015 05:46 - 12 Jul 2015 15:39 #146906 by JimnyGlenn
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ZukracerV6 wrote:

trextr7monkey wrote: As I recall the Tim Dutton amphibious Jimny was a disaster resulting in a court case. Good luck with this although I think Jimny will perform best as a terrestrial machine. If I was planning an amphicar I'd be looking at the Argocat for inspiration


Tim is very upfront and open about the court case and even publishes it on the website.

Tim Dutton Court Case

You can read it yourself and google other stories, I've meet the man and seen the machine and made my own decision. to date he has made about 230 ampibous cars, and hundreds possibly thousands other other kit cars with one notable court case. Every story has two side. You can make your own decision, I have!

I've driven argocats both on land and water and while they are an amazing go anywhere machine there really not ideal for driving long distance etc.


Well said mate. You have obviously done your research and sticking by your guns. If I had taken all the reviews the motoring press had said about the Jimny before I bought one I wouldn't have. Whereas I read the reviews of the people who had actually purchased one and they all loved them. I do believe sometimes you do have to go with your heart not your head. Hope the build turns out well for you. Dutton has created some amazing products, sure yours will be the same.
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12 Jul 2015 11:50 #147639 by ZukracerV6
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Ok, the donor jimny has been stripped of a few parts like the transfer case, steering box, wiper mechanism, steering column, exhaust, propshafts and gear lever.

These will be modified to fit the Surf, the transfer case will have an extra power off take fitted to power the jet drive.


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