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    High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM
            
        
                01 Aug 2025 17:27         -  07 Aug 2025 12:30        #261440
        by PDX-ORE
    
    
            
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        Classic "what's that sound" game.
2003 Jimny
Manual
Gasoline
Removable Hardtop
50cm lift + 215.75.15 tyres
106,000K
I have owned this Jimny for a little less then a year and the sound has always been there, but really trying to get to the bottom of it.
When the RPM's are between 2100-2200 there is a high-pitch mouse squeak / squeal, when the engine is under load (not when coasting in neutral or stationary). Doesn't mater uphill, flat, or downhill. It happens in each gear whenever the RPM's hit that range, whether accelerating, decelerating, or keeping constant speed. Sorta like a belt-slip squeal... but doesn't sound like it's coming from the front (like a belt) but more center of the car. The sound goes away immediately when you depress the clutch, shift, or drop above/below that RPM range.
A shop (LandRover 4x4 shop, not Suzuki specialist as my options are limited) thought it might be the rear wheel bearings as they both show some play + wheel spacers. But that doesn't make sense to me given it's an RPM-specific thing and not speed.
I am new to Jimny's so am open to ideas. Appreciate any thoughts !
 
 
     
            2003 Jimny
Manual
Gasoline
Removable Hardtop
50cm lift + 215.75.15 tyres
106,000K
I have owned this Jimny for a little less then a year and the sound has always been there, but really trying to get to the bottom of it.
When the RPM's are between 2100-2200 there is a high-pitch mouse squeak / squeal, when the engine is under load (not when coasting in neutral or stationary). Doesn't mater uphill, flat, or downhill. It happens in each gear whenever the RPM's hit that range, whether accelerating, decelerating, or keeping constant speed. Sorta like a belt-slip squeal... but doesn't sound like it's coming from the front (like a belt) but more center of the car. The sound goes away immediately when you depress the clutch, shift, or drop above/below that RPM range.
A shop (LandRover 4x4 shop, not Suzuki specialist as my options are limited) thought it might be the rear wheel bearings as they both show some play + wheel spacers. But that doesn't make sense to me given it's an RPM-specific thing and not speed.
I am new to Jimny's so am open to ideas. Appreciate any thoughts !
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Greetings from Portugal
        Last edit: 07 Aug 2025 12:30  by PDX-ORE.            
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                01 Aug 2025 18:09         -  01 Aug 2025 18:12        #261441
        by fordem
    
    
    
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by fordem on topic High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM            
    
        Did the land rover shop actually hear the squeal or were they guessing like we are, based on your description?  Is it continuous (skeeeeeeeee) or broken (skee-skee-skee-skee-skee)?
Make a video so we can hear what you're hearing, if not, all we can do is guess.
My guess, by the way is a dry UJ in the jack shaft (transmission to transfer case).
    Make a video so we can hear what you're hearing, if not, all we can do is guess.
My guess, by the way is a dry UJ in the jack shaft (transmission to transfer case).
        Last edit: 01 Aug 2025 18:12  by fordem.        Reason: additional question.    
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                01 Aug 2025 19:22                #261444
        by PDX-ORE
    
    
            
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        Replied by PDX-ORE on topic High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM            
    
        The shop did hear it in-person. They have the car now. 
Its a continuous squeak through that short RPM range. And if you hold it there, the sound is a constant high-pitched cheerp.
I'll see if I can get a cellphone sound bite.
            Its a continuous squeak through that short RPM range. And if you hold it there, the sound is a constant high-pitched cheerp.
I'll see if I can get a cellphone sound bite.
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                04 Aug 2025 19:21                #261475
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        Replied by PDX-ORE on topic High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM            
    Possible for a dry or defective U-joint to produce an RPM related noise, same chirp/squeak sound at 2100rpm in each gear?My guess, by the way is a dry UJ in the jack shaft (transmission to transfer case).
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                04 Aug 2025 20:22                #261476
        by fordem
    
    
        
Here's my problem - I haven't heard the sound, and your description doesn't tell me what I need to know - you've described it as a "mouse squeak/squeal", as continuous, as a constant high pitched cheerp, and now a chirp/squeak.
Look back at my earlier reply and the question I ask.
To me a squeal is a continuous high pitched tone, squeaks & chirps are not continuous, but you can have a constant squeaking or chirping noise, like chicks in a farm yard - cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep - a constant series of short repetitive tones, you're asking me to guess based on a description that I can't make head or tail of, hence my suggestion to make a recording of it.
    
            
            
            
            
            
                                
    
                                                
    
        Replied by fordem on topic High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM            
    Possible for a dry or defective U-joint to produce an RPM related noise, same chirp/squeak sound at 2100rpm in each gear?
Here's my problem - I haven't heard the sound, and your description doesn't tell me what I need to know - you've described it as a "mouse squeak/squeal", as continuous, as a constant high pitched cheerp, and now a chirp/squeak.
Look back at my earlier reply and the question I ask.
To me a squeal is a continuous high pitched tone, squeaks & chirps are not continuous, but you can have a constant squeaking or chirping noise, like chicks in a farm yard - cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep, cheep - a constant series of short repetitive tones, you're asking me to guess based on a description that I can't make head or tail of, hence my suggestion to make a recording of it.
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                05 Aug 2025 06:18                #261477
        by DrRobin
    
    
            
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
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        Replied by DrRobin on topic High pitch squeak at 2100 PRM            
    
        The two classic things which squeak on most cars are the belts (your Jimny might have two) or the clutch (thrust bearing), although the squeak these make tends to change in pitch.
If it’s rpm and not speed related then it has to be engine (before the gearbox) and my first checks would be the belts.
A few questions
Is the squeak worse after starting?
Is it worse if turning?
Is it worse in the wet?
Do you have aircon, is it worse with this on?
The belts are quite easy to check, but to the untrained eye do appear to be quite tight. Once they start squeaking they wear and are more prone to do it in the future.
The other problem on jimnys is the belt crank pulley, it has a rubber cushion drive and they wear, this first makes the pulley run off centre, then it collapses, so that’s worth checking with the belts.
            If it’s rpm and not speed related then it has to be engine (before the gearbox) and my first checks would be the belts.
A few questions
Is the squeak worse after starting?
Is it worse if turning?
Is it worse in the wet?
Do you have aircon, is it worse with this on?
The belts are quite easy to check, but to the untrained eye do appear to be quite tight. Once they start squeaking they wear and are more prone to do it in the future.
The other problem on jimnys is the belt crank pulley, it has a rubber cushion drive and they wear, this first makes the pulley run off centre, then it collapses, so that’s worth checking with the belts.
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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