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Panhard relocation bracket

  • Alex09gp
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07 Feb 2013 15:29 #61294 by Alex09gp
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Would anybody be able to tell me if I could use this with a 3" lift instead of getting adjustable panhard Rods? Any help is massively appreciated.

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07 Feb 2013 15:55 #61296 by TomDK
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The panhard relocating bracket and adjustable rods are two different things that does not affect the same things.

The adjustable rods are a must-have for suspension-lifts. Where the relocating brackets are nice to have but not directly needed, although a good idea. The relocating bracket are to keep the panhard rods level to avoid bump-steer.

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07 Feb 2013 17:46 #61320 by Paul4x4
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TomDK wrote: The panhard relocating bracket and adjustable rods are two different things that does not affect the same things.

The adjustable rods are a must-have for suspension-lifts. Where the relocating brackets are nice to have but not directly needed, although a good idea. The relocating bracket are to keep the panhard rods level to avoid bump-steer.

I must disagree on this one. You can use the relocating bracket on the rear axle to get the panhard more level, and at the same time the axle moves more towards the center, so it does what adjustable panhard would do, but is much more limited in that. However, you can't use one up front, because it's ideal to keep both the panhard and the drag link at the same angle, so installing a relocating bracket would affect the steering geometry. And I don't think there even is such thing as bump steer with three link suspensions with panhard rods... :whistle:

Also adjustable panhards are MUCH stronger than those stock "straws", so I would recommend them for that reason only! :)

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07 Feb 2013 17:53 #61321 by TomDK
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Paul4x4 wrote:

TomDK wrote: The panhard relocating bracket and adjustable rods are two different things that does not affect the same things.

The adjustable rods are a must-have for suspension-lifts. Where the relocating brackets are nice to have but not directly needed, although a good idea. The relocating bracket are to keep the panhard rods level to avoid bump-steer.

I must disagree on this one. You can use the relocating bracket on the rear axle to get the panhard more level, and at the same time the axle moves more towards the center, so it does what adjustable panhard would do, but is much more limited in that. However, you can't use one up front, because it's ideal to keep both the panhard and the drag link at the same angle, so installing a relocating bracket would affect the steering geometry. And I don't think there even is such thing as bump steer with three link suspensions with panhard rods... :whistle:

Also adjustable panhards are MUCH stronger than those stock "straws", so I would recommend them for that reason only! :)


Off course you right about the relocating bracket. If tall enough to keep the panhard rod level, you don't need a longer / adjustable panhard rod to keep the axles centered. But is that with a 3" or a 4" suspension lift ?

Regarding bump steer. I have no first hand experience with this. But there have been talk about the relocating bracket eliminating bump steer before, and it made good sense to me :) As long as you're using a panhard rod, there should be a risk of bump steer as far as I know.

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07 Feb 2013 18:08 #61324 by Paul4x4
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TomDK wrote: Off course you right about the relocating bracket. If tall enough to keep the panhard rod level, you don't need a longer / adjustable panhard rod to keep the axles centered. But is that with a 3" or a 4" suspension lift ?

Regarding bump steer. I have no first hand experience with this. But there have been talk about the relocating bracket eliminating bump steer before, and it made good sense to me :) As long as you're using a panhard rod, there should be a risk of bump steer as far as I know.

Yeah, the bracket is not meant for bigger lifts, because it won't be tall enough to center the axle completely, but that's still the only thing they are meant for.

There won't be any bump steer when you have the panhard rod parallel with the drag link. It's leafsprung suspensions that have bump steer, because the suspension travel is completely vertical, and the drag link is at an angle, so when the suspension compresses it makes the drag link to push and steer the wheels slightly. But when there's a panhard rod, it pulls/pushes the axle sideways too, so the drag link always stays parallel with the panhard throughout the suspension travel.

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08 Feb 2013 10:15 #61444 by panosd
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I have to disagree with you.

I have a 4 inch suspension lift, no bodylift, and i have both front and rear panar relocation brakets.

But in a combination with adjustable panar rods.

In front steering bars come almost paraller and at rear also the bar is more straight.

So in off road i also gain some more inches of travel because panar rods are not already streched from the start.

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