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Phonic wheel (speedometer sensor gear) Jimny VVT

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28 Oct 2015 18:44 - 28 Oct 2015 19:33 #154728 by jimnynatal
Hello!
Does anyone know manufacturer, model or part number of the phonic wheel (speedometer sensor gear, or counter gear) for the Jimny VVT? Or simply have photos?
I am buying a programable injection controller, and the manufacturer asked me about the phonic wheel.
Thank you very much
Sandro
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28 Oct 2015 20:00 #154737 by Rhinoman
Like most modern ECUs its a bit more complex than a single phonic wheel.

Crank:


Cam:


VVT:

Some Suzukis and a bunch of motorcycles.

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13 Nov 2015 13:15 #156180 by jimnynatal
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Thank you, Rhinoman!

You helped me a lot with those pictures! Great!

Well, I have also learned that:

There are three phonic wheels, all of them with 3 wires hall sensors close to them.

1. VSS - Vehicle Speed Sensor - a speed sensor, located in the end of the transfer case. Here, the phonic wheel is a simple speedo ring, a counter gear, with same spacing teeth. There are 25 teeth in it.




2. CKP - CranKshaft Position sensor - there is a coded teeth wheel attached in the flywheel, and it has the same speed of the engine. I dont know how many teeth, and the no teeth intervals.

3. CMP - CaMshaft Position sensor - there is a coded teeth wheel connected to the chain of the camshaft. I dont know how many teeth, and the no teeth intervals.

If anyone has photos, drafts or any information about these gears, please, tell us.

Thank you very much!
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13 Nov 2015 17:43 #156199 by BigT
The CKP SCOPE trace that Rhinoman sent you, the pulses that are close together are at 10 degree intervals and the larger parts
where their are no pulse are 30 degree intervals.
If this confuses you I could post a clearer scope trace for you taken from my car.

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13 Nov 2015 18:28 #156202 by jimnynatal
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If you can, please, send it. I'll help. Thank you.

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13 Nov 2015 19:58 - 13 Nov 2015 19:59 #156210 by BigT
See attached file, this was taken from a 1.6 vvt engine but the 1.3 is the same sensor set up.
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13 Nov 2015 20:35 #156213 by jimnynatal
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Thank you! I've got it! :)


Photos or drawings of the CMP and CKP wheels? Does anybody have them?

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01 Dec 2015 13:01 #157662 by jimnynatal
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I took pictures of the CKP and CMP wheels! Here they are:

CKP:





CMP:


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01 Dec 2015 19:22 #157671 by BigT
Good photos, it makes understanding the trace on the scope much easier

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10 Nov 2016 18:54 #174483 by jimnynatal
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At top dead center of the first cylinder, what is the position of the CKP´s wheel?

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