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17 Jun 2018 08:33 #193543
by safari
if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry
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hello everybody
i need a bit of help, i keep on bending my track rod the one between the propshaft and radius arms
what can i do i already made a hardened homemade but still it is bending easily
i need a bit of help, i keep on bending my track rod the one between the propshaft and radius arms
what can i do i already made a hardened homemade but still it is bending easily
if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry
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17 Jun 2018 11:25 #193545
by zukebob
I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
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Are you able to post a picture? I would also ask what the off-roading conditions were.
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17 Jun 2018 11:57 #193546
by safari
if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry
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like this exactly and offroad is only rocks ,what i am asking is if i can make some kind of guards?
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17 Jun 2018 12:03 #193547
by zukebob
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Is it being bent by impact loads?
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17 Jun 2018 14:53 #193549
by X8GGY
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That photo -
Is a photo of the Redacted Heavy Duty Steering Bars fitted to my S200KYS Jimny...
That's the sort of thing you need
Is a photo of the Redacted Heavy Duty Steering Bars fitted to my S200KYS Jimny...
That's the sort of thing you need
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17 Jun 2018 14:58 #193550
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18 Jun 2018 01:58 #193562
by zukebob
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If your rod is bending due to high loading in rough terrain, I would defer to S200KYS experience with the Trail-Gear HD Steering kit.
On the other hand, you have obviously had the problem more than once and you mentioned driving over rocks and asked about a guard. That is why I asked if the bending was due to impact load. If it is due to impact caused by the front of your Jimny coming over an obstacle and the rod coming down on a rock, the heavy duty kit may not solve the problem. I'm not sure how you would design a guard to go under the rod that would really provide reasonable protection from that kind of damage. Are you able to clarify the cause of the bending?
On the other hand, you have obviously had the problem more than once and you mentioned driving over rocks and asked about a guard. That is why I asked if the bending was due to impact load. If it is due to impact caused by the front of your Jimny coming over an obstacle and the rod coming down on a rock, the heavy duty kit may not solve the problem. I'm not sure how you would design a guard to go under the rod that would really provide reasonable protection from that kind of damage. Are you able to clarify the cause of the bending?
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19 Jun 2018 08:52 #193606
by yakuza
Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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If it has been bent once, it will go soft in that spot and bend more easily next time.
Hardened steel can be more brittle and is not always the right way to go. Harder is not always stronger for this kind of use, steel can have all sorts of specs. Steel with bigger diameter is often good, but if the steel bar have been peeled in production after forging as many tool steels for hardening is, it will be poorer to withstand bending forces as the forging make it strongest in the outer parts and more soft in the center of the diameter.
Hardened steel can be more brittle and is not always the right way to go. Harder is not always stronger for this kind of use, steel can have all sorts of specs. Steel with bigger diameter is often good, but if the steel bar have been peeled in production after forging as many tool steels for hardening is, it will be poorer to withstand bending forces as the forging make it strongest in the outer parts and more soft in the center of the diameter.
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19 Jun 2018 09:55 #193608
by X8GGY
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Rockwatt's - fitted to mine - are solid EN16 bar, so a lot stronger but not hardened (brittle)... tested to the extremes
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20 Jun 2018 08:18 #193659
by zukebob
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Thanks for the feedback S200KYS. It's good to know for future reference. My career was working as an engineer for a company that designed and fabricated military vehicles. One of the things we would sometimes be faced with is redesigning a part that was failing in the field. It would be easy to just make the part stronger but then you just shift stresses to another component in the subsystem. I have wondered if the HD steering kits would do that ultimately causing other components to see excessive stresses.
I know you run yours hard so it's good to know
I know you run yours hard so it's good to know
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20 Jun 2018 08:57 #193662
by X8GGY
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Aye, Redacted knows his metallurgy
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22 Jun 2018 11:34 #193733
by safari
if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry
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tks for the reply
i used steel called (solidro) but is still bending and so failing
it is bending up and so it is pressing on the drive shaft and the steering is getting hard to turn in competitions
i used steel called (solidro) but is still bending and so failing
it is bending up and so it is pressing on the drive shaft and the steering is getting hard to turn in competitions
if u worry u die if u dont worry u still die so why worry
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