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Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
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02 Jan 2024 06:06 #253199
by Kermit
How do you remove the instrument panel on a 2022 Suzuki Jimny? There are what look like four allan type sockets but very shallow and a key does not work.
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02 Jan 2024 10:19 #253200
by mlines
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
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Replied by mlines on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Its because they are fake!
The whole instrument panel cover is secured by internal clips so has to be prised off. With the cover removed the main part of the cluster is then held in place by a couple of screws.
The whole instrument panel cover is secured by internal clips so has to be prised off. With the cover removed the main part of the cluster is then held in place by a couple of screws.
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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02 Jan 2024 10:21 #253201
by facade
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Those are just pretend fasteners to make it look retro.
The whole pod pulls out somehow, then you will have to dismantle the clocks from the back.
It is much easier to just get used to the kph scale. You soon learn 32, 48, 64, 80, 96 & 112, I rode a grey import 'bike for years.
There is no MOT fail criteria for a kph only speedo.
The whole pod pulls out somehow, then you will have to dismantle the clocks from the back.
It is much easier to just get used to the kph scale. You soon learn 32, 48, 64, 80, 96 & 112, I rode a grey import 'bike for years.
There is no MOT fail criteria for a kph only speedo.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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02 Jan 2024 13:33 #253204
by Phaeton
Replied by Phaeton on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Added to the things I thought I knew but are wrong aboutThere is no MOT fail criteria for a kph only speedo.
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02 Jan 2024 18:20 #253211
by DrRobin
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
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Replied by DrRobin on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
My understanding now is that as part of the vehicle import it has to have the speedo changed to read in MPH. You are right though, it won't fail the MOT, the speedo isn't checked for correct operation at the MOT. However, it is illegal to have a non-working speedo. A bit of a grey area that.Those are just pretend fasteners to make it look retro.
The whole pod pulls out somehow, then you will have to dismantle the clocks from the back.
It is much easier to just get used to the kph scale. You soon learn 32, 48, 64, 80, 96 & 112, I rode a grey import 'bike for years.
There is no MOT fail criteria for a kph only speedo.
2020 blue SZ5 (one of the last to be registered in the UK)
Ex 2011 Blue Jimny SZ4
Northumberland Jimny Blog
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02 Jan 2024 23:20 #253214
by facade
My interpretation is that a kph only speedo on a vehicle not originally built for the UK market would pass the IVA.
Grey imports used to come with nasty stickers on the speedo glass marking 30, 40, 50, 60 & 70. I'm not sure if these were just a convenience thing for the new owner, or were put on to ensure it passed IVA (or whatever it used to be then), even though not strictly necessary- I suppose if you are fitting them anyway, it might as well be before the test as after.
The MOT only checks that the speedo is present, looks as if it will work and lights up, unless it has to be road tested for the brakes (permanent 4wd and anything with a haldex- you might even find that some use it on a Gen 4 as it has "Allgrip" on the back), when they would notice as they couldn't tell it was doing 20mph for the Tapley meter.
A speedo that shows the vehicle speed is working, even if the indication is in kph, you just remember that 10mph = 16kph
Anyway my advice to the OP is not to mess. It is easy to break something very expensive changing the scale card, and it isn't necessary.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
Replied by facade on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
A personal import (of a less than 10 year old vehicle), or any left hand drive vehicle has to pass the basic IVA test, where the speedo is inspected (and the newly fitted rear fog light on a JDM checked it has the correct e markings ) The inspection is still for compliance with a Euro directive AFAIK, where it must be marked in 10kph increments, but a vehicle marketed for sale in a country still on imperial measurements has to have mph on it as well- a dual mph/kph scale.
My understanding now is that as part of the vehicle import it has to have the speedo changed to read in MPH. You are right though, it won't fail the MOT, the speedo isn't checked for correct operation at the MOT. However, it is illegal to have a non-working speedo. A bit of a grey area that.Those are just pretend fasteners to make it look retro.
The whole pod pulls out somehow, then you will have to dismantle the clocks from the back.
It is much easier to just get used to the kph scale. You soon learn 32, 48, 64, 80, 96 & 112, I rode a grey import 'bike for years.
There is no MOT fail criteria for a kph only speedo.
My interpretation is that a kph only speedo on a vehicle not originally built for the UK market would pass the IVA.
Grey imports used to come with nasty stickers on the speedo glass marking 30, 40, 50, 60 & 70. I'm not sure if these were just a convenience thing for the new owner, or were put on to ensure it passed IVA (or whatever it used to be then), even though not strictly necessary- I suppose if you are fitting them anyway, it might as well be before the test as after.
The MOT only checks that the speedo is present, looks as if it will work and lights up, unless it has to be road tested for the brakes (permanent 4wd and anything with a haldex- you might even find that some use it on a Gen 4 as it has "Allgrip" on the back), when they would notice as they couldn't tell it was doing 20mph for the Tapley meter.
A speedo that shows the vehicle speed is working, even if the indication is in kph, you just remember that 10mph = 16kph
Anyway my advice to the OP is not to mess. It is easy to break something very expensive changing the scale card, and it isn't necessary.
If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there
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03 Jan 2024 12:24 #253220
by Phaeton
Replied by Phaeton on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Sort of on the same lines, we used to have a 1977 Ford D series horsebox, the speedo didn't work when we bought it (inner cable broken) it went through 3 Ministry MOT's that way. One day I decided to try to fix it, as the inner was broken as there were several different length ones I removed both parts of the inner drive to measure & get a replacement. The order was delayed & I forgot I had left the end disconnected from the gearbox, so I went for the next test & it failed as it was obviously it wasn't working. Because it had failed when I brought it back a week later the Inspector got into the cab & we drove around the building to prove it was now working & I hadn't simply connected the end back up, whether that was strictly correct or not I'm not sure but you don't argue with the Ministry boys.
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06 Jan 2024 00:05 #253283
by Filipao
Replied by Filipao on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
I really want to shut the indicators' sound off.
Any pictures from the panel's disassembly would be very welcome, thank you!
Any pictures from the panel's disassembly would be very welcome, thank you!
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10 Jan 2024 16:23 #253420
by Kermit
Replied by Kermit on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Ok, thanks guys. I will have to get Suzuki garage to change speedo dial as it is imported from Australia I need IVA inspection so must have MPH.
I need also a tear fog light. I have purchased a Jimny right hand light cluster and use the second reverse light to be the fog lamp, just need to run the power supply to a new switch in the dash. I have a new switch for a light bar that I can install but how to get the dash panel off??
I need also a tear fog light. I have purchased a Jimny right hand light cluster and use the second reverse light to be the fog lamp, just need to run the power supply to a new switch in the dash. I have a new switch for a light bar that I can install but how to get the dash panel off??
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25 Jan 2024 15:03 #253743
by Motacilla
Replied by Motacilla on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
The speedometer face plate is not available as a separate part; Suzuki will tell you that the entire unit (instrument pod) must be replaced. The part is on the order of £300, give or take.
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25 Jan 2024 17:47 - 25 Jan 2024 17:47 #253748
by Man of Kent
Replied by Man of Kent on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
I imported (or, to be honest, re-imported) a 1991 Range-Rover Vogue SE in the late 90’s from Belgium and had to replace the speedo head to read in MPH, or the garage would not give it an MoT pass. And obviously the headlights from right dip to left.
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28 Jan 2024 17:46 #253843
by Filipao
Replied by Filipao on topic Removal of Jimny instrument panel to change speedometer face plate to MPH
Any pictures from the panel's disassembly would be very welcome, thank you!
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