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16 Aug 2017 15:52 - 16 Aug 2017 16:06 #183443 by paul2u
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hi guys was wondering id somebody can help me out with my head banging problem , i have been a jimny man for 30 years or so i use them for general run about and for their ability to work well inn the wood dragging out trees ect for my hungry fire they have served me well with the last one dying of old age at 187,000 miles on the clock

i went to up size the tyres on my current jeep to 225/70/15 generel grabbers on coming home down my rough tracj i heard a scrap noise from the front off side wheel upon investigation i found the wheel hitting the wing fixing bolt head after futher investigation i now find there is a difference between the near side and off side as tho the axel was sitting squint ,in other words not sitting square to the body i thought right away that the track control arm bushes might have gone but thats not the case i took it to my mot man at the garage and he saw nothing wrong with the bushes and said that this was strange
by my calculation i thing there is something like about 20 mill of difference in the gap , have you any idea how this can be , the jeep has been in no crashes at all !! well not yet any way lol
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16 Aug 2017 16:25 #183444 by X8GGY
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Has it been lifted?

That would move the axle to one side as the panhard rod 'shortens' (long side of Pythagoras triangle)'

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16 Aug 2017 16:33 #183445 by paul2u
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not to my knowledge but i do lift my jimnies from time to time with the tractor depending what i want to do but not had this one up yet nor have i ever come across this problem with other jimnies that i have lifted maybe it depends where you lift them from cheers paul

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16 Aug 2017 16:41 #183446 by Riccy
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I think Dave means 'suspension lift kit' by lifted.

I had the same problem after fiddling with the suspension. eventually sorted it with a set of adjustable panhard rods and some castor corrected sway arms. The over-size tyres you have will make it worse/more obvious.

If you have a broken spring or worn bushes on sway arms that could do it also possibly.

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16 Aug 2017 16:53 - 16 Aug 2017 16:54 #183447 by paul2u
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ha ha trust me to get the wrong lift lol no its not been lifted i tend to keep them pretty standard apart from tires the problem was not apparent with the 205/70 15 and i have only just noticed now i have fitted the 225 /70/15 i dont have a broken spring and my garage tells me it would pass an mot for bushes , the panard rod on mine is none adjustable do you think one would square it up cheers paul

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16 Aug 2017 17:22 #183448 by Riccy
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If it hasnt got a lift kit on, then an adjustable panhard kit would be too long even on its shortest setting.

It probably means some bumper trimming. Are the wheels standard or off-set of some kind? and what year of jimny is it?

When I ran 215/75R15 I noticed it a little, but wasnt a problem. Your tyres are 1.1% smaller diameter than that, but 4.7% wider. I found that once i had fitted 30mm wheel spacers to the 215 size tyres i got catching problems on front and rear of front arches. back were fine however.

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16 Aug 2017 20:22 - 16 Aug 2017 20:26 #183449 by paul2u
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thank you for your help riccy much appreciated my jiny is a 2005 and all standard nothing at all modified all wing and door pannels in place as they should be and as i said not been in a bump yet i can live with the odd scrape or two on big bumps but i am the kind of lad thats like to solve problems even if its the hard way lol i know that the axel is out some place and given that i done seem to have many options to work on i am now wondering if i renewed the original springs and shock weather that mit help some being that they might be that bit stronger and not go down so easy cheers paul

ps the wheels are the standard wheel from suzuki for that yeat three spoked alloys
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17 Aug 2017 07:07 #183456 by Lambert
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It's front to back that's off. Sounds like something is bent or worn on one of the hockey sticks either the chassis or axle mounting bracket or the holes for the bolts are ovaled. You are absolutely certain that it hasn't been smashed?

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17 Aug 2017 09:51 - 17 Aug 2017 09:53 #183458 by paul2u
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prety sure its not been smashed or even bumped i had an insurance check on it before i got it and it was clear!! not only that when it was on the ramp at the garage it was checked all over the front end for signs of anything but there was nothing to see it all looked perfect as it should for a one lady owner infact its the best underbody jimy i have ever had with no rust at all in the boot department lol i am going to be replacing the springs and shocks tomorrow.
altho the garage could not see any thing on the track control bushes i now think i am going to replace them anyway as you say something could be oval and that wont be seen till dismantled , the tracking was out a small bit but i had that fixed cheers paul
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17 Aug 2017 16:26 #183467 by facade
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Have you checked that it isn't the bumper is further back on one side?
There are crumple zones built into the chassis rails right at the front, and despite what the owner tells you about never having a bump, and the small size, most jimnys have front bumpers that look like they have been used to knock walls down.

If it suddenly breaks, go back to the last thing that you did before it broke and start looking there :)

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17 Aug 2017 17:22 #183468 by paul2u
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its got nothing to do with the bumper m8t the gap difference is at the back of the wheels towards the front doors right where the front mud flaps would go in between the mud flap bolts and the Tyre there is about ten mill of difference between offside and near side , the woman i bought it off never said anything about crashes it was insurance company checks , having that said myself and my garage cant find any sign at all of anything that would indicate it having a bump , i am going to drop the track control arms tomorrow to check them out if the steel inserts are one sided /oval as Platinum Boarder points out then this would indeed cause the problem i think cheers paul

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17 Aug 2017 17:59 #183470 by mlines
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paul2u wrote: hi guys was wondering id somebody can help me out with my head banging problem , i have been a jimny man for 30 years or so l


Are we talking about what us Brits call a Jimny as these have only been around since 1998 - just under 20 years :)

Check the axle itself. It is really easy to bend the long axle tube by clunking it on a kerb. This can sometimes be characterised by the small inner axle oil seal continuously leaking oil even when freshly replaced

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