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jimny on disco 1 running gear

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09 Apr 2017 16:58 #180091 by Dlmcs
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Hi i have a 2001 jlx jimny in my garage which I havent realy decided what to do with it i bought 16 x 7 wheels and 235 x 16 x 80 tyres but i still dont like it im thinking of buying a disco 1 complete and replacing axles transfer box gearbox and tdi unit does anyone have any expearance with this and any real info will be most welcome I am a skilled mechanic when I left school and now have been in heavy engineering for last 20 years with great deal of electronical expeirance but am slightley disabled but have all the kit i need to do the job i want to go offroading with my welsh friends they go through the welsh forests slowley so that is my aim also will be selling parts that I will be exchanging ther engine is good axles have been rebuilt eith new bearings and seals and pads

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09 Apr 2017 17:32 #180092 by OllieNZ
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The axles would be worth a shot if you want to run bigger tyres and gain some width but every thing else would be too heavy. I'd look into lighter running gear. There are very few light weight diesels out there (compared to a stock jimny engine) and even fewer have attempted to fit them to a jimny (1.7 Isuzu being most common). From what I've read on those that have fitted xud or pd engines to samurais it's definitely affected the handling some have considered it worth the trade off others not so much. A manual jimny engine and gearbox weighs in around 120kg dripping wet. An xud or pd engine weighs considerably more on its own. I've not no idea what a 200/300tdi weighs

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09 Apr 2017 17:47 #180093 by Dlmcs
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Hi thank you for your response the reason that I want to use the ruuning gear is that it will take the weight of the engine / gearbox and Im thinking that transfer box wouuld be a good move to use the landy one as the susuki one is vey light duty. do you still not think using the whole lot that it would affect the haddeling I was thinking that stuffing all that heavy duty kit would make an awsome go any were kind of all terrain viehicle im thinking of useing springs steering rack shortend propshafts and so on your views are very important to me at this designing stage

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09 Apr 2017 18:04 #180095 by OllieNZ
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Part of what makes the jimny is its light weight, I can understand the axle swap but I'm struggling with why the landrover engine/gearbox? There are much lighter and just as powerful if not more so engine gearbox combo's out there. As for the transfer case, swap the jimny one for an sj410 one or splurge (well worth the money imo) on a rock lobster (remanufactured sj410/sj413 hybrid transfer case)

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10 Apr 2017 04:24 #180099 by Lambert
Making a Jimny into a land rover is pointless. It will be just as wide as a land rover, 90pc as heavy as a land rover, have the turning circle of a land rover, be even less reliable than a land rover and be a massive amount of time and money to make. If that's what you want then I would look forward to the build thread as a technical exercise but as a practical off road car i would encourage you to put some mud tyres on the stock Jimny, go to the nearest off road centre and get some focused tuition from someone who understands the attributes of a Jimny and learn how to drive past land rovers, because a Jimny in the right hands is an epic weapon for upsetting land rover fan boys.

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10 Apr 2017 08:02 #180102 by Busta
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I agree with 11/60. It's a great engineering exercise but a lot of work to make something that won't be very special. It will basically be a Defender with a Jimny body. Heavy, slow, wide, not very manoeuvrable...

I'm sure if you sort the gearing to match your tyres, buy stronger shafts and maybe fit a 1.6 you will find the Jimny on your current tyres is more than a match to any Landrover.

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10 Apr 2017 08:50 #180103 by Dlmcs
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Hi Thanks for your comments however it costs 500 + for heavey duty driveshafts it costs 700 + for diff lock kit 700 + for low gearing crawler gears price is going up and up and still you cant use four wheel drive on hard ground
my thinking is i can buy a low millage p38 for less than 500 and a disco for about the same a jimny on paper does nothing to frill me to be onest please let me know your views on my comments many thanks Deano

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10 Apr 2017 10:11 #180104 by Keithy

Dlmcs wrote: a jimny on paper does nothing to frill me to be onest please let me know your views on my comments many thanks Deano


Take it off the paper and give it a whirl off the beaten track as mentioned above.

I decided against diesel due to weight.

Landrover axles are a tad heavy for a jimny?

Just get a Landrover....one life...live it eh!

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10 Apr 2017 10:38 #180106 by Lambert
As a former defender driver i can honestly say that i can get my stock Jimny on racing slicks to places that my 90 could only look at from a distance, be it through tigh trees, over swamps or round rocks following a line inaccessible by the 90. Then it gets out on the road and unless the defender has been through twisted s workshops it will never compete. Yes okay a land rover can tow more and carry more and can use torque for hill climbs fine. But for the other 90pc of the time a Jimny in stock condition is much more useful. As to my qualifications for this opinion, i am a hill farmer and I work my vehicles for a living and punting the defender was one of the best ideas i have had.

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10 Apr 2017 16:57 #180113 by OllieNZ
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Dlmcs wrote: Hi Thanks for your comments however it costs 500 + for heavey duty driveshafts it costs 700 + for diff lock kit 700 + for low gearing crawler gears price is going up and up and still you cant use four wheel drive on hard ground
my thinking is i can buy a low millage p38 for less than 500 and a disco for about the same a jimny on paper does nothing to frill me to be onest please let me know your views on my comments many thanks Deano


To be fair it will cost you similar money to lock and beef up the landrover axles and you will need better axles once you lock them..... not to mention new r&p sets to correct the gearing for bigger tyres.

Why do you need 4wd on hard surfaces?

If you are prepared to go to the effort of fitting the landrover stuff to a jimny why not bobtail a Disco or P38?
Also anything longer than an inline 4 won't fit in the jimny's engine bay that would immediately rule out the 2.5dse from a P38 which is an inline 6 bmw engine.
Not trying to shoot your idea down in flames just asking the same questions I've asked myself when looking at the mods I'm carrying out/going to carry out on my Jimny.
My advice, pick a tyre size you want to run and see how light weight you can keep everything without sacrificing reliability.

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11 Apr 2017 16:10 #180136 by HG0606
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I must say i agree with what everyone else has said here, having been a jimny owner myself since learning to drive and now owning a land rover 90, what you're contemplating- and fair play for considering it, in my mind sort of defeats the object of a jimny. My dad now comes regularly laning in his jimny -my old one (6.1 tbox, 31's ect) and to be fair it will go everywhere my 90 does. Now not getting into the age old 'which one is best debate' :P they excel at different things, the jimny is brilliant at rock crawling type stuff, having such little overhang and no weight means it just skips up things (even reversed out of the strata florida bomb hole on tick over), never broken anything offroad due to being gentle with the loud pedal and is great as a toy. I'd have another in a heart beat as just that, where a 90 or other landy comes into its own is having a bit more space, towing ability and a bit more oomph for long on road hills. Also never broken anything laning in that! With what you're proposing it seems you loose the best bit of both vehicles, the compact light nimbleness of a jimny and the small size allowing you to take a different off road line and not get stuck in land rover ruts. whilst not gaining the ability to be able to tow anything or do any of the useful land rover stuff either (unless you just dropped a jimny body onto a landy chassis and registered it as a land rover - but then i believe theres a mountain of SVA paperwork?) and at the end of it you'd have a vehicle that's no more capable than a modified jimny. if you stick a 6.1 ratio box in there it will change it completely off road and you'll just crawl up stuff, so chances are you wont break shafts ect as you won't need to be using speed to fly up things.
Thats just my 2p's worth anyway- besides don't buy a landy- they are constant and i mean constant work fixing niggly little things !

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11 Apr 2017 17:08 #180143 by Dlmcs
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thank you for your views I think I will just sell it as it wont ever be what I really want thanks again you have been most helpful

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