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07 Apr 2017 06:52 #180002 by helijohn
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With so many tires being made to save petrol does anyone know which make in general is a softer sidewalled tyre? I am not particularly interested in off road capability nor mpg, just quietness.

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07 Apr 2017 07:49 #180005 by kirkynut
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If you look at tyres for sale online from the likes of Black Circles they tell you how loud they are in decibels. They also tell you how good wet and dry grip is. So you can choose with the compromise slanting to whichever matter is most important to you.

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07 Apr 2017 07:59 - 07 Apr 2017 08:02 #180006 by yakuza
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Not sure how much we can influence this when choosing tires with different specifications, but one of the factors with the lawsuits suzuki won against the testing of tippy 4x4's was that the tires used in the tests was too grippy, making 4x4's roll over instead of skid.
So it might be a safety issue also when choosing tires, especially if we have lifted cars..

edit: I am thinking about selling my cheap, cheap Nexen MT because they skid way too much on wet pavement. I must be careful with throttle in roundabouts..

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07 Apr 2017 08:04 #180007 by helijohn
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kirkynut wrote: If you look at tyres for sale online from the likes of Black Circles they tell you how loud they are in decibels. They also tell you how good wet and dry grip is. So you can choose with the compromise slanting to whichever matter is most important to you.

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Yeah thanks Rob. I did look at the Db ratings. It is said that it needs a 3Db change for the human ear to hear a change. The trouble is the Db ratings are made externally as a vehicle passes by so while it might be a good start it is more a question of the transmitted noise (to the car) rather than the noise the tyre makes on the road if you can see what I mean. Some tyres, apparently, have softer sidewalls so that heh vibrations are not passed through to the axle etc. so much.
I've read that Goodyear are good with regard to this.
I was hoping for personal anecdotes from peeps who have noticed a drumming noise reduction/increase on tyre changes.

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07 Apr 2017 08:06 #180008 by helijohn
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yakuza wrote: edit: I am thinking about selling my cheap, cheap Nexen MT because they skid way too much on wet pavement. I must be careful with throttle in roundabouts..


I suppose a tyre that skids more will use less petrol. Skid from A to B.:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Were the tyres in the lawsuit Bridgestones?

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07 Apr 2017 08:49 #180010 by Lambert
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Tread design has a lot to do with how loud a tyre is, its all about how much air is trapped /compressed making noise as it does so. What I will say is that the duelers weren't a particularly loud tyre o most surfaces but in comparison with the urban terrain they were like simex jungle trekkers yet on the label its only 1 or 2 decibels difference. Also don't go too soft on the sidewall as it will make the handling even mushier.

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07 Apr 2017 09:32 #180015 by helijohn
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11/60 wrote: in comparison with the urban terrain they were like simex jungle trekkers yet on the label its only 1 or 2 decibels difference. Also don't go too soft on the sidewall as it will make the handling even mushier.


So just a Db or two makes a big difference then?

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07 Apr 2017 09:57 #180017 by Lambert
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dB is a logarithmic scale and I have it in mind that 1 dB is 3 times louder or something

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07 Apr 2017 10:07 #180019 by Lambert
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Or to quantify that my car averages 78dB and maximum of 85dB screaming the nuts off it in second.

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07 Apr 2017 14:28 #180024 by 1066Boy
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You didn't say what vehicle. Assuming the jimny, the yokoharma geolander is quite soft and flexi in the sidewall and my old Maxxis trepador even more so. You cannot rely on the tire label. Just changed from Dunlop sportmaxx to Uniroyal Rainsport 3 on my car. The Uniroyal are much quieter yet I think the label showed them 3 db or so louder :)

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07 Apr 2017 21:30 #180049 by Keithy
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11/60 wrote: dB is a logarithmic scale and I have it in mind that 1 dB is 3 times louder or something

1db is a big difference in real terms.

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25 Apr 2017 21:56 #180588 by frankie13
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I recommend Michelin Latitude Cross for onroad use, good for light offroad too. Great grip better economy and not noisy at all. Softer ride compared to the old Bridgestone Dueler I had before

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