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New engine noises!

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29 Mar 2022 10:04 #242544 by me101
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Thanks, I'm in Doncaster. Back at work now, so will be leaving it for a few days now unfortunately. Cheers

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30 Mar 2022 17:53 #242592 by me101
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Quick question, the more I sit at work thinking about it, I am going for input shaft bearing as all noises go away with clutch pressed. The bearing looks cheap enough, but regarding man hours, is it going to be cheaper to replace the gearbox?

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30 Mar 2022 19:32 #242597 by Roger Fairclough
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Replace the box with what? A new one will be an arm and a leg and reconditioned will be £500 plus and a s/hand one could well be as bad. Best bet is to replace the bearing. On my Gen.2 SJ413 I did 150,000 miles and changed that bearing a number of times. I did a lot of green-laning and RTV competitions so the box was used hard.

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31 Mar 2022 10:09 #242619 by me101
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Is it not a box apart job? Gearbox is one of them things I just don't want to get too deep into!

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31 Mar 2022 10:38 #242621 by Roger Fairclough
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Yes it is but its not a major issue. OK I'm speaking from the position of a trained technician which I realise makes a big difference and the probability is that if you have any doubts then talking to a few independent technicians is the way to go. It would keep the cost down if you removed the box yourself and as it is a separate item from the transfer box it is not that heavy. Certainly an average guy, working on his own, can remove the box. If you want to go this route, then there are plenty of guys on this forum who can help you.

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31 Mar 2022 12:52 #242629 by me101
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Thanks, I'll take it out and then decide if I'm brave enough to tackle myself. Will it do much harm running as it is for a while?

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31 Mar 2022 13:02 #242630 by yakuza
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My SJ gearbox made noises for years on and still worked fine.
My 05 Jimny gearbox made noises for a couple of km's before it locked up and bits of gearwheel got stuck inside it.
If you plan on fixing the gearbox and not replace, I would park the car.

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31 Mar 2022 13:10 #242631 by me101
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Thanks. I will risk 1 more run out (got a trip planned for Saturday). If it survives, will then park it and pull the box.

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31 Mar 2022 15:31 - 31 Mar 2022 15:33 #242634 by yakuza
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When (not if..) you break down you should look for a new gearbox from a car newer than 2009. The roller bearings in the box after 2009 has closed sides and will last longer. The 5 speed between 2005 and 2009 has more load from the gear ratios and the bearings are open sided. Not sure why this is bad for them but mostly only these years experience the problems..

My 2005 gearbox started to whine and I thought I could take one last careful road trip just 10 km but total break down after 5 km.
Yours might work longer of course.

not saying this to be funny or nothing, but it is based on my experience with this one box compared to other suzuki gearboxes both in a swift and several SJ's. Next time I hear the whine from my jimny I will park the car and move it on a trailer if needed.

Norway 2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, ARB rear lck, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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31 Mar 2022 16:02 #242638 by me101
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Point noted. Although mine is a 2007, I have just had the older box and manual transfer box fitted. These were supposed to be the stronger box!

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01 Apr 2022 21:12 #242673 by me101
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Me again. Had an hour in the garage after work, and have found the noise to be from the clutch fork. Taking off the plastic inspection cover, you can see the fork vibrating, and when I put pressure on it with my finger the noise stops. So, my new question is, how do I stop it rattling??

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01 Apr 2022 22:11 - 01 Apr 2022 22:20 #242675 by Scimike
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The most likely cause is the clutch release arm (4) is not fitted correctly to the bell housing pivot pin (5) or the release arm clip (20) is broken or missing. This allows the release bearing (9) to rest on the gearbox shaft and vibrate the arm. It's also possible the actual release bearing is not fitted correctly, it's also held by a clip (7). If you can see any of this through the arm gap in the bell housing you can eliminate each as a cause. If you can't it's time to split the box from the engine and take a look. You will be doing this anyway if the fault turns out to be a duff gearbox, but I don't think it is at the moment.
Here a similar diagram (Suzuki but not Jimny) to help identify the bits I am talking about.
ITS cheaper to check these parts first.
 

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