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4wd engaging on its own whilst driving

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06 Nov 2021 14:52 #239900 by Gix3r
Hi guys just picked up my first ever jimny yesterday and absolutely love it. Only problem im having is on the drive home 4wd would engage on its own. Its a 2003 so the stick version not buttons. Id notice it was in 4wd and put it back into 2wd. Just a little worried because i know your not meant to be in 4wd on dry tarmac and i had a few miles without noticing that it was in 4wd. Any ide why this is happening? 
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Eric 

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06 Nov 2021 22:15 #239915 by Roger Fairclough
Hi Eric.
I can't help with the reason, but if there was a problem being in 4 wheel drive then you would experience a vibration and a drop in power. If these didn't happen then you shouldn't have a problem.

Roger

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06 Nov 2021 22:40 #239917 by Gix3r
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Hi roger,
Thanks for the reply. It felt really smooth in 4wd. I couldn't tell the difference bar the light being on. 4wd is deffinetley working tho because i can hear the front wheels slipping when im full lock on gravel.
I did also notice that i had to reverse down my drive be be able to get it back into 2wd tho 

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07 Nov 2021 12:29 #239923 by Scimike
Hi Eric,
Welcome along.
Is it possible the selector lever was simply not pushed home?
I sort of can't help really as I have push buttons, but I sort of recall potential issues if the body is lifted (bend lever to fix?) or the level is not sitting correctly. Could be wrong and just wanted to say hi !
 

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08 Nov 2021 14:33 - 08 Nov 2021 14:42 #239948 by LesNewell
With the car in neutral move the lever between 2wd and 4wd. Do you feel a positive click as it goes between the two? If not you may have a stuck or broken detent. The detent is basically just a spring loaded ball. I believe it can be accessed by undoing the bolt that is at right angles to the 4wd switch on the front of the transfer box. The switch is easy enough to spot - just follow the wire.

By the way, needing to reverse to get 4wd to release is fairly common, especially if you are on tarmac.
Last edit: 08 Nov 2021 14:42 by LesNewell.

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09 Nov 2021 08:00 #239957 by Gix3r
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Thanks for saying hi scimike. Its still completely stock at the moment and it did feel like it had seated nicely back into 2wd. 
Thanks for the info. Is that a hard job to do if it has broken? 
could it have possibly done it because i was testing the 4wd on gravel when i first picked it up to make sure it was working. I then put it into 2wd and drove it home, im thinking maybe because i hadant reversed abit and made sure it was in 2wd it just kept popping back into 4 like you said les.
ill have to go for another drive and see what its like but i cant at the moment because ive got a leaking rear brake line :(
 

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09 Nov 2021 23:01 #239980 by LesNewell
If the transmission has wound up due to driving on a grippy surface it should just refuse to come out of 4wd until you back up to release the load. It shouldn't pop back into 4wd.

Put it in neutral then jack up one wheel to make absolutely sure you have no load on the transmission and check if it switches between 2wd and 4wd correctly. It does not matter which wheel. The lever should have a positive click is it switches between modes, similar to when you change gear but a bit firmer.
If it's sloppy with no real feel for when it changes between 2wd and 4wd the detent could be faulty. It's pretty rare though. The detent is literally just a ball and a spring so there isn't much to go wrong.
If it is very stiff to move it could be simply that it has seized up due to lack of use. In that case a bit of oil on the linkages and a bit of exercise should sort it.

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10 Nov 2021 18:57 #240005 by Paul4A
Not an expert on this but what about a vacuum pipe issue. We had a problem a few years ago when we had sudden juddering but can’t remember the details fully. Ours was something like grease in a newly replaced vacuum system

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10 Nov 2021 20:24 #240009 by LesNewell
Only the hubs use vacuum. Issues with that system can leave you with 2wd even in 4wd mode but it can't cause the transfer to jump into 4wd.

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10 Nov 2021 21:11 #240010 by Gix3r
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Its feels to be clicking in to place really well. Ill get it jacked up over the weekend and check. Had a drive about on the wet grass earlier and it was deffinetly changing between 2wd and 4wd properly. 

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10 Nov 2021 21:18 #240011 by LesNewell
If it worked correctly on grass I'd say it's all working fine. I suspect that your original issue was transmission wind up due to testing on a grippy surface. When you thought you were switching out of 4wd it wasn't actually able to switch due to the wind up. I wouldn't worry about it unless you have problems again.

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10 Nov 2021 22:38 #240018 by Gix3r
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Ok thank you for the help :) once ive sorted out my brakes ill take it for another drive and update if i have anymore issues with it 

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