King pin shims

Got an 09 plate with factory alloys.
Got the swivels apart to replace king pin bearings. I picked out a copper washer on the inside top of the swivel when I dismantled. This is fractionally too big to be fitted from the outside. I also had another, smaller, non-copper washer drop out although I didn't see from where.

Am I correct in thinking both annealed copper, and the shim type washers sold on the site can be fitted just by pulling the king pins out? No need to have the swivel apart? In which case I'm thinking of just getting it back together shimless and retro-fitting those if needed. Does that sound sensible?

The write up in the shop for the copper washers confuses me slightly. It describes fitting them on the inside when the bearings are changed, and then goes on to talk about fitting two washers with, I think, just top king pin out.

Thanks for any comments.

Rob

Sheepish wrote: I'm thinking of just getting it back together shimless and retro-fitting those if needed. Does that sound sensible?
Rob

That's the method described in the Suzuki Technical Service Bulletin. Only add shims if required, increasing the thickness until it stops wobbling or the preload exceeds the recommended value (which I've forgotten!)

can anyone tell me the dimensions of the washers?

When I rebuilt my swivels both sides did not have any packing washers, copper or steel, I believe this is how it left the factory.
Even though I had a pack of steel shims from the Big Jimny shop when I assembled with new Koyo bearings, again both sides did not require any fitting to achieve the correct swivel load. After assembly I have no wobble and this is a factory spec 09 on standard tyres / wheels.

You only need to fit them if you can't achieve the correct swivel load with the new bearings alone.

Sorry don't know this size.

if I understood correctly, as long as the force is greater than 3.5kg it is not necessary to put shims? or after inserting the shims the force must not exceed 3.5kg?

hello, I have another question, whether the shims are placed on the lower bearing or only on the upper. i watched clips on which they put shims only above. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Top or bottom will achieve the same result. The reality is it's just easier to put them at the top as gravity is not involved when you reassemble.
If I was fitting more than one I personally would split them top / bottom just to keep things central, but again this may be my OCD rather than a practical requirement as we are (should be) talking small shim thickness.
Mike