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Now that's an oddball.
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17 Nov 2021 23:19 #240164
by Roger Fairclough
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Hi all.
Drove from Redditch to Stratford via Alcester today. Took Alcester by-pass and turned left at the island by McDonald's and proceeded up a long straight single carraigeway road. This road has a 70 limit. After a few hundred yards an articulated truck overtook me. As he went past the info panel on the dash showed a speed limit sign with 100 in the middle. After the truck past, the sign changed to "no overtaking begins". After maybe 30 seconds it all went back to normal.
Back home I found on page 3-41 details of the dual sensor and when it doesn't work properly and we believe that it was the passing truck that triggered the alarm but we don't know how.
Any comments?
Roger
Drove from Redditch to Stratford via Alcester today. Took Alcester by-pass and turned left at the island by McDonald's and proceeded up a long straight single carraigeway road. This road has a 70 limit. After a few hundred yards an articulated truck overtook me. As he went past the info panel on the dash showed a speed limit sign with 100 in the middle. After the truck past, the sign changed to "no overtaking begins". After maybe 30 seconds it all went back to normal.
Back home I found on page 3-41 details of the dual sensor and when it doesn't work properly and we believe that it was the passing truck that triggered the alarm but we don't know how.
Any comments?
Roger
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18 Nov 2021 06:29 #240167
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic Now that's an oddball.
This demonstrates my concern that the technology in the new Jimny is simply not robust enough and confirms my bias that I was correct in buying a late gen3. As for why it would do that, were there any speed stickers on the back of the wagon that could have confused it?
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ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!
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18 Nov 2021 08:58 - 18 Nov 2021 09:00 #240169
by mlines
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Replied by mlines on topic Re:Now that's an oddball.
The camera/lidar read the signs on the back of the truck. It would have had the speed restriction symbols ( in km/hour) and a no overtaking (undertaking) sign on the rear of the trailer
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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18 Nov 2021 10:02 #240170
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Re:Now that's an oddball.
Thank you both for your answers. Yes, the truck did have rear mounted speed symbols. There is a whole load of "instances when the system fails" in the handbook, but no mention of being overtaken by a truck.
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18 Nov 2021 10:39 #240171
by 300bhpton
Buying a Gen 3 is fine, they are awesome vehicles. But doing so on the sole basis of the 'technology' of the 4th Gen seems rather odd to me.
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Now that's an oddball.
I don't think there is any 'concern'. It is only an info panel on the dash and is unobtrusive and does nothing else.This demonstrates my concern that the technology in the new Jimny is simply not robust enough and confirms my bias that I was correct in buying a late gen3. As for why it would do that, were there any speed stickers on the back of the wagon that could have confused it?
Buying a Gen 3 is fine, they are awesome vehicles. But doing so on the sole basis of the 'technology' of the 4th Gen seems rather odd to me.
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18 Nov 2021 11:57 #240172
by Scimike
It got so bad that in the end I just wanted rid of the thing and the remit was a tech free replacement, the Jimny fitted perfectly being a "new" old design.
I was a little saddened by the introduction of some of these gizmos on the high spec G4, still cant see a need for them, but I am aware some of this is driven by nanny regulations.
Sadly its only going to get worse and of course will eventually require an app, another thing that makes me shout at the TV
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Replied by Scimike on topic Now that's an oddball.
Its not odd to me. The vehicle prior to my Jimny was a tech laden VW, this tech was always acting up or crying wolf. It actually did nothing of real benefit for me, I am quite capable of checking type pressures / reading signs / checking bulbs etc.
I don't think there is any 'concern'. It is only an info panel on the dash and is unobtrusive and does nothing else.This demonstrates my concern that the technology in the new Jimny is simply not robust enough and confirms my bias that I was correct in buying a late gen3. As for why it would do that, were there any speed stickers on the back of the wagon that could have confused it?
Buying a Gen 3 is fine, they are awesome vehicles. But doing so on the sole basis of the 'technology' of the 4th Gen seems rather odd to me.
It got so bad that in the end I just wanted rid of the thing and the remit was a tech free replacement, the Jimny fitted perfectly being a "new" old design.
I was a little saddened by the introduction of some of these gizmos on the high spec G4, still cant see a need for them, but I am aware some of this is driven by nanny regulations.
Sadly its only going to get worse and of course will eventually require an app, another thing that makes me shout at the TV
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18 Nov 2021 12:03 #240173
by mlines
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235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Now that's an oddball.
There is no concern over these indications which I deem to be "driver assist" ie. "Did you see this roadsign?" at the moment they do not take control of the driving (until the EU steps in with its speed limiter regulations)
However the one that does interfere is the obstacle detection. If the Jimny computer thinks it sees a pedestrian etc. it first makes a loud song and dance on the dashboard and then decides to apply the brakes. This can be "interesting" when driving and it gets it wrong.
Anecdotally this is worse on our original 4 seater Gen4 than it is on our new Gen4 LCV so perhaps there has been some software tuning.
However the one that does interfere is the obstacle detection. If the Jimny computer thinks it sees a pedestrian etc. it first makes a loud song and dance on the dashboard and then decides to apply the brakes. This can be "interesting" when driving and it gets it wrong.
Anecdotally this is worse on our original 4 seater Gen4 than it is on our new Gen4 LCV so perhaps there has been some software tuning.
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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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18 Nov 2021 12:07 #240174
by Roger Fairclough
Replied by Roger Fairclough on topic Now that's an oddball.
Yes Scimike, that is very true. I turn off as much off the techno do this do that as I can and I just tolerate the ones I can't. Vivs Audi Q3 has an electronic handbrake. You need seat belts on, all doors closed and steering in the straight ahead before it will release and let you drive on.
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18 Nov 2021 13:05 #240176
by Soeley
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Replied by Soeley on topic Now that's an oddball.
You can turn off the speed recognition in the menu.
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18 Nov 2021 13:05 #240177
by DrRobin
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Replied by DrRobin on topic Now that's an oddball.
My Sat Nav tells the road speed, even warns me if I am speeding, hardly ever in my Jimny. It's fine as long as I update the database when the road speed changes.
Fortunately, it will do this when it connects to the home wifi.
Fortunately, it will do this when it connects to the home wifi.
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18 Nov 2021 13:22 #240179
by Lambert
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My objection is not so much the actual technology as much as I don't think it works reliably enough yet. There is a saying; to err is human, to mess things up completely you do need a computer. I'm sure I'm not alone in being able to point to dozens of instances in life where something has been designed by someone in an office with no meaningful real world experience and the product or service is useless because of it.
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18 Nov 2021 16:47 #240183
by 300bhpton
Replied by 300bhpton on topic Now that's an oddball.
There isn't really much tech on the 4th Gen though and certainly not on all specs.
Its not odd to me. The vehicle prior to my Jimny was a tech laden VW, this tech was always acting up or crying wolf. It actually did nothing of real benefit for me, I am quite capable of checking type pressures / reading signs / checking bulbs etc.
I don't think there is any 'concern'. It is only an info panel on the dash and is unobtrusive and does nothing else.This demonstrates my concern that the technology in the new Jimny is simply not robust enough and confirms my bias that I was correct in buying a late gen3. As for why it would do that, were there any speed stickers on the back of the wagon that could have confused it?
Buying a Gen 3 is fine, they are awesome vehicles. But doing so on the sole basis of the 'technology' of the 4th Gen seems rather odd to me.
It got so bad that in the end I just wanted rid of the thing and the remit was a tech free replacement, the Jimny fitted perfectly being a "new" old design.
I was a little saddened by the introduction of some of these gizmos on the high spec G4, still cant see a need for them, but I am aware some of this is driven by nanny regulations.
Sadly its only going to get worse and of course will eventually require an app, another thing that makes me shout at the TV
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