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19 Aug 2020 09:48 #226967 by Gadget
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Thanks for the info zebraman, I've been umming and ahhing for months about replacing the shocks and your post might finally persuade me to do it!

Did you install these yourself? Wondering if they're a simple bolt-in affair that a mechanical novice like me can do?

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19 Aug 2020 10:10 #226969 by GeorgeC
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quote="Lambert": That's coming up as a 45mm lowering set with Koni heavy track dampers. Expect that to be very firm and go round corners like a Mk1 escort 1300 in clubman spec. An absolute blast as a weekend toy but a bit tiresome for the commute. Very similar to my track set-up. H&R have a well deserved quality reputation especially in German modified circles../quote

Thank you for looking, much appreciated My Escort experience was a Mk1 1600 Twin Cam, some rally fruit, but I preferred to navigate.

I can see, it's way too radical for just doing the shopping. I got lured in by the guy on the phone saying "Koni Dampers", he assumed stock!

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19 Aug 2020 11:32 #226972 by Busta
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It's interesting that Bilstein don't list gen4 shocks on their UK site. How are these different to the gen 3 equivalent?

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19 Aug 2020 12:31 - 19 Aug 2020 12:34 #226976 by zebraman
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@300bhpton I didn't want to have to tell them the vehicle suspension has been modified with a lift kit.

Replacement shocks are "like for like" so no changes are being made. The car isn't any lower or higher if that makes sense and you could even claim the the originals failed and you replaced them. A full lift on the other hand would most likely have to be declared to the insurance company but happy to be corrected.

@gadget I didn't fit them myself no. A local garage charged 3 hours labour to do it.

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19 Aug 2020 14:44 - 19 Aug 2020 14:58 #226983 by lightning
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The Bilstein dampers are longer than the standard ones.
lf you fit them to a standard Jimny, is there any chance that the springs could dislocate?
On the Land Rover it's the dampers that limit suspension travel.
Dampers are always a compromise. l've played with aftermarket ones on my Defender and "upgraded" usually means "stiffer" which can be good for fast road use.
The trade off is a harder ride on poor surfaces.

Adjustable dampers are the way to go, then you can alter them depending on what you are doing in the vehicle.

One thing. The Bilsteins mentioned above are listed for Gen 3
Are they suitable for the new model?
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19 Aug 2020 15:02 #226985 by saxj
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zebraman wrote: @300bhpton I didn't want to have to tell them the vehicle suspension has been modified with a lift kit.

Replacement shocks are "like for like" so no changes are being made. The car isn't any lower or higher if that makes sense and you could even claim the the originals failed and you replaced them. A full lift on the other hand would most likely have to be declared to the insurance company but happy to be corrected.

@gadget I didn't fit them myself no. A local garage charged 3 hours labour to do it.

Fitted pic attached.


3 hours to just replace shocks is a complete rip-off. I can do the job myself in under an hour.

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19 Aug 2020 15:03 #226986 by Soeley
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I informed my insurance about my lift, that was it, no hassle and no increase in premium.

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19 Aug 2020 16:05 #226989 by Grima
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Churchill wants more money for a lift, what insurance are you using Soeley?.

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19 Aug 2020 16:32 #226990 by Gadget
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lightning wrote: The Bilstein dampers are longer than the standard ones.
lf you fit them to a standard Jimny, is there any chance that the springs could dislocate?
On the Land Rover it's the dampers that limit suspension travel.
Dampers are always a compromise. l've played with aftermarket ones on my Defender and "upgraded" usually means "stiffer" which can be good for fast road use.
The trade off is a harder ride on poor surfaces.

Adjustable dampers are the way to go, then you can alter them depending on what you are doing in the vehicle.

One thing. The Bilsteins mentioned above are listed for Gen 3
Are they suitable for the new model?


From the Jimnystyle site (where they're listed as for the Gen4):

"The shock absorbers are also longer than the OEM (standard) items, allowing for a ride height increase when used in conjunction with longer springs. Alternatively, you can use them in conjunction with the OEM (standard) springs and enjoy an improved ride without lifting the suspension."

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19 Aug 2020 16:38 #226991 by Lambert
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So they are basically the same as my 0 to 20mm trailmaster then? They will accept a slight increase in height or allow slightly more droop.

Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
One of the last 200ish of the gen3s, probably.
ADOS Attention Deficit Ooooh Shiny!

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19 Aug 2020 17:09 #226993 by Soeley
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Grima wrote: Churchill wants more money for a lift, what insurance are you using Soeley?.


LV, also declared front and rear recovery points and under-body protection and KC Daylighter spotlights. all at no extra charge.

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19 Aug 2020 17:23 #226995 by Grima
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Thanks Soeley, renewing in Nov. LV here i come.
Any idea on fitting a 30mm chain gun & hell fire missiles?

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