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RPM drop on electric load

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05 Oct 2017 08:27 - 05 Oct 2017 08:31 #184865 by ggregorsch
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Hello friends,
New member here.
My car: Jimny 2001 Japan made.
My problem:
With engine at idle, when depressing brake pedal (brake lights on) or when lifting both windows in the same time, the RPM drops from approx 800 rpm at idle at about 350-400 RPM and the car shakes a bit, like trying to stall. The issue is more persistent in cold weather.
I have cleaned the ground points (engine bay and car interior) but still have this problem.
Any suggestions are welcomed.
Thanks in advance!

I'm sorry for posting in the wrong section, maybe the admin will move it to Jimny technical. Thanks!
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05 Oct 2017 08:37 #184868 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic RPM drop on electric load
Clean the idle control valve, check the crankcase pressure valve is working and replace if necessary.

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05 Oct 2017 11:35 - 05 Oct 2017 11:36 #184876 by ggregorsch
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I forgot to mention but I have cleaned the IAC valve an the PCV valve is brand new (and working).
I've checked the alternator on professional tester and it is in good condition. Battery is brand new.
I am a former Suzuki Samurai user (drove it for almost 8 years) and I'm familiar somewhat with these engines.
It seems that ECU doesn't detect the applied electric load and doesn't increase engine RPM accordingly.
If I use the headlights (even on strong beam), RPM increases for a moment, then drops to normal idle.
Thanks!
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05 Oct 2017 12:36 #184879 by Rhinoman
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The ECU should detect electrical load, you need to check the inputs to the ECU.

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05 Oct 2017 17:23 #184883 by ggregorsch
Replied by ggregorsch on topic Re:RE: RPM drop on electric load

Rhinoman wrote: The ECU should detect electrical load, you need to check the inputs to the ECU.

The ECU detects electric loads (headlights, heater fan). RPM drops only when applying brakes or when I lower or close both windows in the same time.
Maybe I have missed a ground spot. Are there any ground connections under the rear bumper or around tail lights?
Thank you!

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05 Oct 2017 21:28 #184887 by Busta
Replied by Busta on topic RPM drop on electric load
The brakes use the engine's vacuum so pressing then will normally cause the idle to fluctuate.

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06 Oct 2017 09:39 #184899 by ggregorsch
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Busta wrote: The brakes use the engine's vacuum so pressing then will normally cause the idle to fluctuate.

I agree that it should be a small fluctuation but at 300-400 rpm the engine shakes and it creates the feeling it will stop in a second. It doesn't stop, but I doubt this happened when the car was brand new.
So maybe the brake booster is the cause?
How do I check it?

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03 Apr 2018 14:04 #191228 by ggregorsch
Replied by ggregorsch on topic Re:RE: RPM drop on electric load
Problem solved, new wire between generator and 80A fuse in the engine fuse box.
For details, everyone is welcomed.
Cheers!

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03 Apr 2018 14:29 #191229 by Stumpjumper
Replied by Stumpjumper on topic Re:RE: RPM drop on electric load
Break in the wire or bad connection?

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04 Apr 2018 16:05 - 04 Apr 2018 16:05 #191288 by X88RED
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Can you send me some more details on what you did or upload some pictures pretty please? I think I may have the same issue as you!
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25 Nov 2022 04:51 #246098 by Topherski99
Hello same problem. Plss help mo
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