long range tank??

ozjoel wrote: what could possibly go wrong with a professionally made tank from a competent technician?
as long as nobody tries to use one for some sort of petrol smoking bong apparatus, it just has to hold fuel etc,
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Nope
The tank on your jimny and any other car has to pass tests for deformation in the event of heat / cold and impact , if you were to have a rear end shunt and your ''homemade'' tank ruptured you would be in serious stum
Now imagine how much trouble you would be in if you had sold a tank to someone else and this happened

Jack wrote: I can go over 600 miles in my jimmy with out stopping for fuel, I love it.

How and where did you placed your LPG-Tank?
Some Pictures please?

reaper wrote: But it would need to be made by a real fuel tank manufacturer
I for one wouldnt put my name to one . ..

Only small but how about motorbike tanks from the scrap yard ?


Dan

Some GPL ideas from a Romanian member. Note however the whole setup is not homologated.

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I've made tanks for years for rally cars and for race cars for versus company's all over the world and they all have difrent tests and regs

And ther is a way out of trouble put a disclaimer on the tank for off road or race use only

Argentine Jimny with two cylinders NGC (natural gas compressed) at 200 bar (3000 psi)



30 liters c/u = 6 Nm3 NGC = (aprox eq.) 7 liters of fuel.

reaper wrote:

ozjoel wrote: what could possibly go wrong with a professionally made tank from a competent technician?
as long as nobody tries to use one for some sort of petrol smoking bong apparatus, it just has to hold fuel etc,
e.

Nope
The tank on your jimny and any other car has to pass tests for deformation in the event of heat / cold and impact , if you were to have a rear end shunt and your ''homemade'' tank ruptured you would be in serious stum
Now imagine how much trouble you would be in if you had sold a tank to someone else and this happened

precisely why it has the certifacation test, so if it passes, it conforms to ADR'S (australian design rules)
such companies that carry out this work are, any certified combustible liquid cell manufacturer, a certified tester (me)
long range tanks aust. etc
im not going to bang in a pinapple tin and plum it to the tank
i cant really explain this any better, its a happening thing, from some of the suspension lifts i see, this shouldnt be a concern, unless the tank is on the roof, where the jimny will inevitably end up with 6'' of llift

so just to reinterate,
in aus, the tank has to be made by a cerified tradesperson.
petrol tanks cant be made of aluminium,
must have an evaporative vent system in line with the current emissions legislation for the year of manufacture of the vehicle (ie, will have to be plummed to the charcoal canister, or the line tht goes to the charcoal canister from the original tanl, this is so the hydrocarbons dont vent straight into the atmosphere, they will be vacuumed into the
inntake manifold once the vehicle reaches running tempreture)
the tank must pass a "safe load test"this is a pressure test etc.


as for structure, not sure if any of you have seen the standard tanks, but they are made of thin metal, so the impact test is a non event, as a big enough impact ruptures any tank.
also the tank must not leak from the filler at any lesser angle of X degrees, but i dont have the measurement.

the filler will also have an anti siphon filler to to negate leakage and theft from the natives up here in the north.


the floor will be cut around where the jack and wheel brace go, a 15 litre tank installed, well mounted and bracketed, heat sheilded from the exhaust, than tapped to the main tank and i will have a bosch lift pump plumbed between the to tanks able to be flicked on from the drivers seat, so it pumps fuel to the main tank.

basically, like any landcruiser/patrol with the twin tanks, dont know if you mob have them over there but thats how they are here, you have a 90liter "main tank"and a 90 liter "auxillary"tank that pumps to the main tank.



hope this helps any people interested, im not interested in making these to sell, as i have enough on my plate, but once done i will do a detailed instruction that you can follow at your own discretion and will/ risk.


wow, thought poms were rock em sock drinking hard men, not girly certification arguing legality swearing yanks??? each post will need a disclaimer and public indemnity insurance, as well as a lawyer per member!
(jokes)

Sorry now im confused
You started this thread asking if there were any larger tanks made by any uk companies and end it telling us how easy it is to make one as you have all the certs and talent ??.
So get on with it

Most people that travel around Aust do use big 4wds however they miss out on being able to access the truly remote parts of awesome land. Also where Joel and I live is the tropics and during the monsoon only small lightweight cars stand any chance of being able o go anywhere.

There is 10 x 20L cans packed in my car and I used all of them on that trip.