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Mounting a Kap winch bumper
- vitara_mad
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04 Mar 2012 23:40 #34869
by vitara_mad
Replied by vitara_mad on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
wow it still suprises me how some will weld on something that is that important when they can't do the job right
as far as i know there is no fully bolt on winch bumper available for the jimny as theres no way to bolt it on
the bumpers ive seen all have weld on brackets & then bumper bolts to the brackets
most winches only have 4 m10 bolts holding it the the mount so if they can hold it on im sure 4 or 6 m12 bolts will be good enough to hold a winch bumper on
as far as i know there is no fully bolt on winch bumper available for the jimny as theres no way to bolt it on
the bumpers ive seen all have weld on brackets & then bumper bolts to the brackets
most winches only have 4 m10 bolts holding it the the mount so if they can hold it on im sure 4 or 6 m12 bolts will be good enough to hold a winch bumper on
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05 Mar 2012 06:35 #34875
by mlines
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
Hi,
Mine is a KAP bumper, although it was modified to take a winch later in its life (it was the original KAP one that would not take a winch.
However, my car was originally supplied by KAP so they welded it on in their garage. It was subsequently modified by ORA to take a winch, again a lot of welding was done at this point. We have happily winched with it on lots of occasions.
You are welcome to come over and have a look at how mine is mounted (although the car is jammed in the garage with the rear axle off so its a bit of a crawl to look under and see the bumper.
I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.
Martin
Mine is a KAP bumper, although it was modified to take a winch later in its life (it was the original KAP one that would not take a winch.
However, my car was originally supplied by KAP so they welded it on in their garage. It was subsequently modified by ORA to take a winch, again a lot of welding was done at this point. We have happily winched with it on lots of occasions.
You are welcome to come over and have a look at how mine is mounted (although the car is jammed in the garage with the rear axle off so its a bit of a crawl to look under and see the bumper.
I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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05 Mar 2012 06:38 #34877
by mlines
The ORA one comes with its mounts in two parts. The base part welds onto the chassis rails and then the bumper bolts onto the base. Therefore it can be unbolted and removed for ease of access.
I don't know of anyone who does a pure bolt on bumper (i.e. with no welding) as there is no-where to bolt it to.
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
Replied by mlines on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
darthloachie wrote: our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on
The ORA one comes with its mounts in two parts. The base part welds onto the chassis rails and then the bumper bolts onto the base. Therefore it can be unbolted and removed for ease of access.
I don't know of anyone who does a pure bolt on bumper (i.e. with no welding) as there is no-where to bolt it to.
Martin
Martin
2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses
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05 Mar 2012 07:54 - 05 Mar 2012 08:03 #34884
by darthloachie
Oops - yes you are right as always - my bad :blush:
there are weld on brackets and then 6 bolts that bolt the bumper to the bracket
heres a pic - fairly similar to the ones on offer now, you can see one of the bolts at the the bottom of the bumper - this is one of two each side and then there is one each side into the front crossmember
Replied by darthloachie on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
mlines wrote:
darthloachie wrote: our vintage ORA is bolt on and takes the strain of the 13,000 lb winch no problems
there are 6 bolts holding it on
The ORA one comes with its mounts in two parts. The base part welds onto the chassis rails and then the bumper bolts onto the base. Therefore it can be unbolted and removed for ease of access.
I don't know of anyone who does a pure bolt on bumper (i.e. with no welding) as there is no-where to bolt it to.
Martin
Oops - yes you are right as always - my bad :blush:
there are weld on brackets and then 6 bolts that bolt the bumper to the bracket
heres a pic - fairly similar to the ones on offer now, you can see one of the bolts at the the bottom of the bumper - this is one of two each side and then there is one each side into the front crossmember
Last edit: 05 Mar 2012 08:03 by darthloachie.
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05 Mar 2012 08:31 #34889
by Mud_Muppet
2001 Red Tin Top,
4.5 inch ORA lift kit,
Pro Comp steering damper
Kap Winch Bumper,
White Weller offset Rims with 30" Insa Turbo Special Tracks,
CB Radio,
Stripped Interia
Roof Rack with 4 front Wipac,
Rear Wipac recovery Lights
.....Plenty more on its way !!!!
Replied by Mud_Muppet on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
You are welcome to come over and have a look at how mine is mounted (although the car is jammed in the garage with the rear axle off so its a bit of a crawl to look under and see the bumper.
I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.
Martin[/quote]
Cheers Martin, im around the corner from challenger so might pop to them to get it weld it back on,
Looking at the bumper now there is pretty much no weld on there really more like bird poo welds lol, oh well least it didnt happen when i was out on my todd !!!
I also know of a small engineering company in Reading who would weld it for you, although they are not the cheapest around.
Martin[/quote]
Cheers Martin, im around the corner from challenger so might pop to them to get it weld it back on,
Looking at the bumper now there is pretty much no weld on there really more like bird poo welds lol, oh well least it didnt happen when i was out on my todd !!!
2001 Red Tin Top,
4.5 inch ORA lift kit,
Pro Comp steering damper
Kap Winch Bumper,
White Weller offset Rims with 30" Insa Turbo Special Tracks,
CB Radio,
Stripped Interia
Roof Rack with 4 front Wipac,
Rear Wipac recovery Lights
.....Plenty more on its way !!!!
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07 Mar 2012 07:55 #35084
by g187eev
Replied by g187eev on topic Re: Mounting a Kap winch bumper
our new winch plate and Competition spec bumper will both be fully bolt on... .but they will not be available until the summer.
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