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[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A02.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Factory prepared position for the rear cabin lamp]]
 
[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A02.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Factory prepared position for the rear cabin lamp]]
 
* Most Jimnys have a factory-made hole in the body above the rear left window, which was meant for a rear cabin lamp.
 
* Most Jimnys have a factory-made hole in the body above the rear left window, which was meant for a rear cabin lamp.
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* However, only some high-spec "Japanese domestic market" Jimnys have that lamp installed.
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* However, only some high-spec "Japanese domestic market" Jimnys have that lamp installed from the factory.
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* On all other Jimnys, that hole is covered by the roof upholstery, with the position of the hole clearly stamped in it.
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* On most other Jimnys, that hole is covered by the roof upholstery, with the position of the hole clearly stamped in it.
 
* The solution is to retrofit the required parts in this position and to wire everything properly.
 
* The solution is to retrofit the required parts in this position and to wire everything properly.
 
* The goal is to have the rear cabin lamp which behaves identical to the front cabin lamp.
 
* The goal is to have the rear cabin lamp which behaves identical to the front cabin lamp.
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* Note: If your Jimny does not have the stamped recess in the roof upholstery as shown in the picture, it may not also have the prepared mounts in the roof behind it.
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* You will need to investigate that before you cut out the upholstery!
 
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* The OEM part number of a set of needed screws (for mounting the lamp to vehicle's body) is <font face="Courier">'''03141-0520A'''</font>.
 
* The OEM part number of a set of needed screws (for mounting the lamp to vehicle's body) is <font face="Courier">'''03141-0520A'''</font>.
 
* Two sets of screws are allegedly needed.
 
* Two sets of screws are allegedly needed.
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* These are standard screws, so matching screws can easily be sourced from any shop which sells various screws.
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* These are standard screws, so it should be easy to obtain matching screws from any shop which sells various screws.
 
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* It should be possible to order the OEM lamp, wiring and screws from a Suzuki dealer.
 
* It should be possible to order the OEM lamp, wiring and screws from a Suzuki dealer.
 
** Just don't tell them that you need those parts for a Jimny.
 
** Just don't tell them that you need those parts for a Jimny.
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*** Telling so might confuse them, as these parts will most probably be listed in their catalogues as fitting Vitaras, Ignis etc.
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*** Telling so might confuse them, as these parts might be listed in their catalogues as fitting only Vitaras, Ignis etc.
  
  
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{{note|If you obtain this lamp from a dead Vitara or other Suzuki vehicle, don't forget to also get the electrical connector from the cable which connects to the lamp. Getting the entire cable is even better.}}
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{{note|If you obtain this lamp from a dead Vitara or other Suzuki vehicle, try to also get the electrical connector from the cable which connects to the lamp. Getting the entire cable is even better.}}
  
  
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# Remove the bottom anchor of the rear left seat belt;
 
# Remove the bottom anchor of the rear left seat belt;
 
# Remove the top anchor of the front left seat belt;
 
# Remove the top anchor of the front left seat belt;
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# Remove the hard plastic rear lower side trim (between the rear left side window and rear left wheel;
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# Remove the hard plastic rear lower left side trim (between the rear left side window and rear left wheel);
  
  
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[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A03.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Cutting the upholstery and marking the holes for the screws]]
 
[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A03.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Cutting the upholstery and marking the holes for the screws]]
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* Once you obtain the needed parts, install the lamp in the pre-drilled factory hole above Jimny's rear left window.
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* Once you obtain the needed parts, install the lamp in the pre-drilled factory position above Jimny's rear left side window.
 
* It should fit perfectly.
 
* It should fit perfectly.
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* The installation method shown is by making a suitable cardboard template from the rear of the new lamp and then cutting the upholstery accordingly with a sharp blade.
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* The installation method shown here is by making a suitable cardboard template from the rear of the new lamp and then cutting the upholstery accordingly with a sharp blade.
 
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Beware that you will have to install some wiring as well, because Suzuki did not install any wiring in that rear lamp position above the rear left window.
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* Beware that you will have to install some wiring as well, because Suzuki did not install any wiring in that rear cabin lamp position above the rear left side window.
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* If you are lucky, your vehicle will have a prepared 3-wire el. connector in the body cavity between the rear left side window and the rear left wheel.
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** There is no hard rule on the basis of which you can determine if your vehicle has that connector or not.
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*** For example, the presence of stamped-in upholstery for the rear cabin lamp above the rear left side window does not guarantee the presence of this el. connector.
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**** There have been many reports of Jimnys which have the first, but lack the latter.
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*** The currently only certain way to know if your vehicle has a factory prepared wiring is to dismantle the rear interior and to see the wiring for yourself!
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* If your vehicle does not have factory prepared wiring for the rear cabin lamp, you will have to fiddle with custom wiring (see more below).
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** In this case, it might be pointless to buy original Suzuki wiring for the rear cabin lamp, as you will have to butcher and extend one of its ends anyway.
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*** The only benefit of getting the OEM wiring in this case is to have proper connection between the cable and the lamp itself.
  
  
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[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A04.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Location of wiring connectors (green-rounded area)]]
 
[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A04.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Location of wiring connectors (green-rounded area)]]
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* Some Jimnys have a prepared connector for the rear cabin lamp in the body cavity between the left rear side window and the left rear wheel.
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* Look for an unused 3-wire connector which is located in the green-rounded or the red-rounded area in the picture.
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* It is a 3-pin connector which is located in the green-rounded area in the picture.
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* If you find it, just connect the rear cabin lamp to it and bring more light into your life.
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* There is also a 4-pin connector nearby (in the red-rounded area in the picture), but that one is meant for the rear speakers - DO NOT use it for the rear lamp!
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* There might also be a 4-wire connector in the same area (usually with two green wires and two grey wires).
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* That one is meant for the rear speakers - '''DO NOT''' use it for the rear cabin lamp!
 
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However, if your Jimny does not have a connector for the rear cabin lamp at all, you will need to do the following:
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In this unfortunate case, you will need to do the following:
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# Connect one wire to the rear door switch;
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# Connect one wire from the rear cabin lamp to the rear door switch or to the left side door switch;
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# Connect the 2nd wire to earth (vehicle body);
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# Connect the 2nd wire from the rear cabin lamp to earth (vehicle body);
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# The 3rd wire needs to be traced under the front left trim and kick panel, and splice it into the wiring loom in the front left foot well.
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# Connect the 3rd wire from the rear cabin lamp to the power wire for the front cabin lamp (so.
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#* This one is easier said than done, as this wire is located far away - in the front left foot well (behind the left part of the dash board).
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#* You will have to install the 3rd wire all the way from the rear cabin lamp to near the bottom anchor of the front left seat belt, and then further on somewhere under the front left trim and kick panel (below the left side door), and then finally splice it into the wiring loom in the front left foot well.
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[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A05.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Connector behind left part of the dash board]]
 
[[File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A05.jpg|400px|thumb|left|Connector behind left part of the dash board]]
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* Here is the wire to which you need to connect the 3rd write from the rear cabin lamp.
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* Here is the wire to which you need to connect the 3rd wire from the rear cabin lamp.
 
* It is a white wire (red-circled in the picture) in the connector which is located behind the left part of the dash board.
 
* It is a white wire (red-circled in the picture) in the connector which is located behind the left part of the dash board.
 
* That is above the gas / brake pedals in LHD Jimnys, and behind the passenger storage compartment in RHD Jimnys.
 
* That is above the gas / brake pedals in LHD Jimnys, and behind the passenger storage compartment in RHD Jimnys.

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Introduction

  • Jimny does hot have a factory fitted rear cabin lamp (neither in the trunk nor above rear seats).
  • The topic of this article is to remedy that deficiency - to install some kind of lightning in the rear cabin area.
  • The remedy can be achieved either through a factory designed solution (retrofit) or through various DIY solutions.


Factory designed solution

Description

File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A02.jpg
Factory prepared position for the rear cabin lamp
  • Most Jimnys have a factory-made hole in the body above the rear left window, which was meant for a rear cabin lamp.
  • However, only some high-spec "Japanese domestic market" Jimnys have that lamp installed from the factory.


  • On most other Jimnys, that hole is covered by the roof upholstery, with the position of the hole clearly stamped in it.
  • The solution is to retrofit the required parts in this position and to wire everything properly.
  • The goal is to have the rear cabin lamp which behaves identical to the front cabin lamp.


  • Note: If your Jimny does not have the stamped recess in the roof upholstery as shown in the picture, it may not also have the prepared mounts in the roof behind it.
  • You will need to investigate that before you cut out the upholstery!



Required OEM parts

File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A01.jpg
Required OEM parts
  • The OEM part number of the lamp is 36210-74F02-6GS.
  • OEM lamp P.N. 36210-74F10-6GS should also be compatible (it looks the same as the above one).


  • The OEM part number of the associated wiring kit (cable with suitable connectors on both ends and clips to hold the cable to the vehicle body) is 36820-81A10.
  • Wiring kit P.N. 36820-81A00 might also be compatible (not verified).


  • The OEM part number of a set of needed screws (for mounting the lamp to vehicle's body) is 03141-0520A.
  • Two sets of screws are allegedly needed.
  • These are standard screws, so it should be easy to obtain matching screws from any shop which sells various screws.



  • The lamp P.N. 36210-74F02-6GS has only two switch positions written on its body ("ON" and "OFF"), and no "DOOR" position.
    • However, it has been confirmed that the intermediate "DOOR" position actually exists in the lamp's switch, but is simply not written on lamp's body.
  • Therefore, this lamp can work in automatic mode to shine only when the doors are open.


  • Here is a picture of wiring loom 36820-81A10.
    • Notice several clips attached along the cable.
    • They are used to hold the wiring securely to the vehicle body, so that the cable does not bounce around when driving.


Obtaining the parts

  • It should be possible to order the OEM lamp, wiring and screws from a Suzuki dealer.
    • Just don't tell them that you need those parts for a Jimny.
      • Telling so might confuse them, as these parts might be listed in their catalogues as fitting only Vitaras, Ignis etc.


  • However, it appears that exactly the same lamp is a standard equipment in vehicle model Suzuki Vitara/Escudo Mk2 (a.k.a. "Grand Vitara") produced from 1998 to 2005, as well as in Suzuki Ignis (produced from 2000 to 2008).
  • LWB (long wheel base) Vitaras have this lamp above the trunk area, while it appears that SWB Vitaras do not feature it.
  • There could be some other Suzuki vehicle models with the same lamp, who knows.
  • So, look around for a dead Ignis or a LWB Vitara/Escudo Mk2 in vehicle junkyards.


Note Icon.pngIf you obtain this lamp from a dead Vitara or other Suzuki vehicle, try to also get the electrical connector from the cable which connects to the lamp. Getting the entire cable is even better.



Installation procedure

Preparations

Required dismantling in order to gain access to install the lamp and the wiring:

  1. Remove the rear seats;
  2. Remove the bottom trim of the rear door opening;
  3. Remove the bottom anchor of the rear left seat belt;
  4. Remove the top anchor of the front left seat belt;
  5. Remove the hard plastic rear lower left side trim (between the rear left side window and rear left wheel);


Mounting the lamp

File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A03.jpg
Cutting the upholstery and marking the holes for the screws
  • Once you obtain the needed parts, install the lamp in the pre-drilled factory position above Jimny's rear left side window.
  • It should fit perfectly.
  • The installation method shown here is by making a suitable cardboard template from the rear of the new lamp and then cutting the upholstery accordingly with a sharp blade.



Wiring the lamp

  • Beware that you will have to install some wiring as well, because Suzuki did not install any wiring in that rear cabin lamp position above the rear left side window.
  • If you are lucky, your vehicle will have a prepared 3-wire el. connector in the body cavity between the rear left side window and the rear left wheel.
    • There is no hard rule on the basis of which you can determine if your vehicle has that connector or not.
      • For example, the presence of stamped-in upholstery for the rear cabin lamp above the rear left side window does not guarantee the presence of this el. connector.
        • There have been many reports of Jimnys which have the first, but lack the latter.
      • The currently only certain way to know if your vehicle has a factory prepared wiring is to dismantle the rear interior and to see the wiring for yourself!
  • If your vehicle does not have factory prepared wiring for the rear cabin lamp, you will have to fiddle with custom wiring (see more below).
    • In this case, it might be pointless to buy original Suzuki wiring for the rear cabin lamp, as you will have to butcher and extend one of its ends anyway.
      • The only benefit of getting the OEM wiring in this case is to have proper connection between the cable and the lamp itself.


If the vehicle has prepared wiring
File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A04.jpg
Location of wiring connectors (green-rounded area)
  • Look for an unused 3-wire connector which is located in the green-rounded or the red-rounded area in the picture.
  • If you find it, just connect the rear cabin lamp to it and bring more light into your life.
  • There might also be a 4-wire connector in the same area (usually with two green wires and two grey wires).
  • That one is meant for the rear speakers - DO NOT use it for the rear cabin lamp!



If the vehicle has no prepared wiring

In this unfortunate case, you will need to do the following:

  1. Connect one wire from the rear cabin lamp to the rear door switch or to the left side door switch;
  2. Connect the 2nd wire from the rear cabin lamp to earth (vehicle body);
  3. Connect the 3rd wire from the rear cabin lamp to the power wire for the front cabin lamp (so.
    • This one is easier said than done, as this wire is located far away - in the front left foot well (behind the left part of the dash board).
    • You will have to install the 3rd wire all the way from the rear cabin lamp to near the bottom anchor of the front left seat belt, and then further on somewhere under the front left trim and kick panel (below the left side door), and then finally splice it into the wiring loom in the front left foot well.


File:Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A05.jpg
Connector behind left part of the dash board
  • Here is the wire to which you need to connect the 3rd wire from the rear cabin lamp.
  • It is a white wire (red-circled in the picture) in the connector which is located behind the left part of the dash board.
  • That is above the gas / brake pedals in LHD Jimnys, and behind the passenger storage compartment in RHD Jimnys.
  • If someone has a better guide on how to wire this 3rd wire, please improve this section.



Finished result

  • Examples of installed and working OEM rear cabin lamp
  • Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - A06.jpg
  • Suzuki Jimny - OEM rear cabin lamp - B01.jpg
  • This is the dream which you are aiming to make a reality.
  • When lamp's switch is set to OFF, it is always OFF.
  • When lamp's switch is set to ON, it is always ON.
  • When lamp's switch is set to DOOR (unmarked intermediate switch position), it will be light whenever any of the doors is open.


Additional info

The following two forum discussions contain pictures, details and installation guides for the retrofit of the OEM rear cabin lamp:


DIY solutions

Write about any DIY rear cabin or trunk lightning solutions here ...


Page last edited on 21/02/2019 by user Bosanek

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