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So what are the symptoms of worn/broken CV joints:
 
So what are the symptoms of worn/broken CV joints:
* Clicking when in 4WD when turning
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* Clicking when in 4WD when turning;
* Banging and snatching of the steering wheel
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* Banging and snatching of the steering wheel;
* Loss of 4wd
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* Loss of 4WD transmission to a front wheel;
  
  
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Suzuki uses two different CV joints in the Jimny. One is straight forward to purchase on the parts aftermarket and the other is nearly impossible to source.
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Suzuki uses three different CV joint types in the Jimny:
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* The 1st type is straight forward to purchase on the parts aftermarket, with offerings from several manufacturers.
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* The 2nd type is very hard to find on the parts aftermarket, with only one or two products.
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* Not much is known about the 3rd type, except that is was used by some (but not all) petrol Jimnys built by Santana in Spain.
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** No known aftermarket replacement product exists for the 3rd type.
  
* Type 1: 6 balls, 26 external splines and 19 internal splines. - [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html BigJimny Store] NTN 75LAC CT9U)
 
* Type 2: 8 balls, 26 external splines and 29 internal splines. - [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html BigJimny Store] (possibly marked NTN EBJ82 although NTN call it an 8-Ball CV)
 
  
 
{{warning|Ensure that you obtain the correct CV joint type for your vehicle!}}
 
{{warning|Ensure that you obtain the correct CV joint type for your vehicle!}}
  
  
{| class="wikitable"
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Suzuki sells genuine CV joints only pre-assembled in a set together with halfshafts for a ************** expensive price (replace the word under the star symbols with an attribute of your choice). Since the left and the right halfshafts have different lengths, the left and right sets are different, although the "left" and the "right" CV joint are identical.
! style="text-align:left;"| Model
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<font face="courier">
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Suzuki P.N.s for genuine CV joint + halfshaft sets
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!
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! Type 1
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! Type 2
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! Type 3
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|-
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! Left side set
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| 44102-81A00
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| 44102-84A00
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| 44102-82A00
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|-
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! Right side set
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| 44101-81A00
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| 44101-84A00
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| 44101-82A00
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|-
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|}
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</font>
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<font face="courier">
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Technical specifications of CV joint types
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! CV joint
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! Model used by Suzuki
 
! Balls
 
! Balls
! Inner Splines
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! Inner splines
! Outer Splines
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! Outer splines
! Outer Case Dia
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! Outer case diameter
! Inner Case Dia
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! Inner case diameter
! Shaft Dia
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! Shaft diameter
! Type
 
 
|-
 
|-
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!Type 1
 
|NTN BJ75LAC
 
|NTN BJ75LAC
 
|6
 
|6
 
|19
 
|19
 
|26
 
|26
|91.6mm
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|91.6 mm
|72.6mm
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|72.6 mm
|19.0mm
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|19.0 mm
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html Type 1]
 
 
|-
 
|-
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!Type 2
 
|NTN EBJ82
 
|NTN EBJ82
 
|8
 
|8
 
|29
 
|29
 
|26
 
|26
|91.6mm
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|91.6 mm
|72.6mm
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|72.6 mm
|21.2mm
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|21.2 mm
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
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|-
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!Type 3
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|AYD 143 Y3 164
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|6
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|20
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|26
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|?
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|72.6 mm
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|24.5 mm
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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</font>
  
  
=== CV Joint compatibility ===
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{{note|CV joint type numbers (like type 1, 2 and 3) are '''not''' official Suzuki numbers. It's just a "BigJimny" nomenclature for easier reference.}}
  
  
Note: check the specific joint for your vehicle before ordering.
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Additional notes:
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* CV joint <font face="Courier">"NTN BJ75LAC"</font> is also sometimes marked as <font face="Courier">"NTN 75LAC CT9U"</font>.
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* While <font face="Courier">NTN EBJ82</font> (which Suzuki originally sources and sells as their own) has 8 balls, it appears that all aftermarket replacements have 6 balls.
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** This is not a critical mismatch - the replacements will fit just fine.
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*** Only the longevity is questionable (like with any aftermarket part).
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** Good luck finding any of these NTN CV joints anywhere on the aftermarket!
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*** You will probably have to buy aftermarket CV joints from some other manufacturers.
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* If anyone knows anything more about type ''3'' CV joints which are specific to ''some'' Santana Jimnys, please contribute to the table above!
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* It appears that no aftermarket manufacturer makes equivalent type '''3''' CV joints.
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** ''If you find one, please add info!''
  
  
{| class="wikitable"
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=== Replacement solutions for type 3 CV joint ===
! style="text-align:left;"| Country of Manufacture
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* If you determine that your broken CV joint is the abandoned and virtually unsupported type '''3''', life might still be worth living.
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* It is almost hopeless trying to find a used type '''3''' CV joint, and straight on masochistic asking a quote form Suzuki for original replacement.
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* The best long term solution in this case is to convert away from type '''3''' to either type '''1''' or type '''2'''.
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** Type '''1''' is the recommended solution, because it has much better aftermarket support than type '''2'''.
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* The conversion is dead simple and can be done on one front wheel / axle side only at a time, and on the other at any later point in time.
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** The entire conversion consists just of replacing your original halfshaft (which should have '''26''' splines on the end which enters the differential and '''20''' splines on the end which enters the CV joint) with a Jimny halfshaft which has the same number of splines ('''26''') on the differential end and either '''19''' (for type '''1''') or '''29''' (for type '''2''') splines on the CV joint end.
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*** This is all that it is needed in order to be able to install a type '''1''' (preferred) or type '''2''' CV joint as equivalent as it would have been a factory setup.
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* Note: Left and right halfshafts have different lengths - do not mix them up when obtaining the replacement!
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* The cheapest and simplest way of performing this solution should be to buy entire used type '''1''' or type '''2''' "CV joint + halfshaft" assembly (for the matching side of the car) from a vehicle scrap yard.
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** Even better, obtain just a used halfshaft (if anyone happens to offers it separately) and then buy a brand new aftermarket replacement CV joint.
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** While the condition of a used CV joint is a lucky draw and is usually hard to visually inspect, it is very rare for a used halfshaft to be damaged, unless it comes from a beat-up offroader tonka-toy car.
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=== CV joint vs. vehicle compatibility ===
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==== Compatibility table ====
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Notes about the table below:
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* No guarantees are made about the accuracy of the data in the table.
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** In other words, your vehicle may be an exception from the classifications which are presented in the table.
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* Check the specific CV joint type for your vehicle before ordering!
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** The most reliable method is by checking the OEM P.N. of a "CV joint + halfshaft" set with a local Suzuki dealer, based on your vehicle's VIN.
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<font face="courier">
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{| class="wikitable" style="text-align:center;"
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|+ Compatibility of CV joint types with different Jimny editions
 
! Engine
 
! Engine
! VIN Number
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! Country of<br>manufacture
! CV Type
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! VIN code<br>(first 9 characters)
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! VIN code<br>(last 8 characters)
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! CV joint<br>type
 
|-
 
|-
|Japan (JSA)
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|G13BB
|G13B
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|Japan
|ALL
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|JSAFJB33V
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|ANY
 
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html Type 1]
 
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html Type 1]
 
|-
 
|-
|Spain (VSE)
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|G13BB
|G13B
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|Spain
|ALL
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|VSEFJB33V
||[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
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|ANY
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|Type 3
 
|-
 
|-
|All
 
 
|M13A
 
|M13A
|up to 00186627
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|Japan
 +
|JSAFJB43V
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|up to 00186627<br>up to 40160140
 
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html Type 1]
 
|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html Type 1]
 
|-
 
|-
|All
 
 
|M13A
 
|M13A
|from 00186627
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|Japan
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|JSAFJB43V
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|from 00186628<br>from 40160141
 
||[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
 
||[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
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|-
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|M13A
 +
|Spain
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|VSEFJB43V
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|?ANY?
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|Type 3
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|-
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|K9K 700<br>K9K 266
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|Japan
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|ЈSAFJB53V
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|ANY
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|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
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|-
 +
 +
|K9K 700<br>K9K 266
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|Spain
 +
|VSEFJB53V
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|ANY
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|[https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-2.html Type 2]
 
|-
 
|-
 
|}
 
|}
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</font>
  
  
==== NTN 75LAC CV Joint ====
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==== Pictures of Type 1 CV joints ====
  
  
<gallery  widths=256 heights=192>
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<gallery  widths=320 heights=240 class="center" caption="Genuine NTN 75LAC CV joint, which Suzuki sells only together with a halfshaft">
ntn75lac.jpg|NTN 75LAC CV Joint
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ntn75lac.jpg|
ntn75lac-outer.jpg|NTN 75LAC CV Joint - 26 Outer splines
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ntn75lac-outer.jpg|26 outer splines
ntn75lac-inner.jpg|NTN 75LAC CV Joint - 19 inner splines
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ntn75lac-inner.jpg|19 inner splines
 
</gallery>
 
</gallery>
 
<br clear=all>
 
<br clear=all>
  
  
==== NTN EBJ82 Style CV Joint ====
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==== Pictures of Type 2 CV joints ====
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[[File:CV joint NTN EBJ82 (genuine from Suzuki Jimny type 6) - unmounted - A01.jpg|thumb|center|960px|Original NTN EBJ82 CV joint]]
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<br clear=all>
  
Note these pictures are of a 6-ball copy (the real thing is an 8 ball CV but is not available as a standalone CV, it comes with the full drive shaft)
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* Above is the genuine NTN EBJ82 CV joint which Suzuki sells only in a super-duper-expensive set together with either a left or a right halfshaft.
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* This one was removed from a type 6 Jimny after it fell apart.
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** Therefore, there are no pictures of its internals as all the balls and internal pieces fell out during removal of the CV joint.
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*** However we counted 8 balls which fell out of it on the floor!
  
<gallery  widths=256 heights=192>
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ntnEBJ82.jpg|NTN EBJ82 Style CV Joint
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<gallery  widths=320 heights=240 class="center" caption="This is a compatible 6-ball copy (probably Herth+Buss Jakoparts model J2828040, but Martin needs to verify this)">
ntnEBJ82-outer.jpg|NTN EBJ82 Style CV Joint - 26 Outer splines
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ntnEBJ82.jpg|
ntnEBJ82-inner.jpg|NTN EBJ82 Style CV Joint - 29 inner splines
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ntnEBJ82-outer.jpg|26 outer splines
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ntnEBJ82-inner.jpg|29 inner splines
 
</gallery>
 
</gallery>
 
<br clear=all>
 
<br clear=all>
  
  
== Changing the CV joint ==
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<gallery  widths=300 heights=400 class="center" caption="This is another compatible 6-ball copy, NKN model N-5979-2HO">
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A01.jpg|
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A02.jpg|
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A03.jpg|
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</gallery>
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<gallery  widths=300 heights=400 class="center">
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A04.jpg|
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A05.jpg|
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CV joint NKN N-5979-2H0 - unmounted - A06.jpg|
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</gallery>
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<br clear=all>
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==== Pictures of Type 3 CV joints ====
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<gallery  widths=300 heights=400 class="center" caption="Markings AYD 143 Y3 164 - probably genuine OEM">
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Suzuki Jimny 3 - CV joint type 3 - A01.jpg|Side view
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Suzuki Jimny 3 - CV joint type 3 - A02.jpg|Frontal view
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</gallery>
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Add more pictures of type 3 if you have them!
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== Prerequisites ==
  
  
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=== Required parts ===
 
=== Required parts ===
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==== The table ====
  
  
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!Comments
 
!Comments
 
|-
 
|-
|Constant velocity joint
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|Constant<br>velocity<br>joint
 
|1 piece
 
|1 piece
|Type 1:<br>44101-81A00 (right)<br>44102-81A00 (left)<br><br>Type 2:<br>44101-84A00 (right)<br>44102-84A00 (left)
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|Type 1:<ul><li>44101-81A00 (right)</li><li>44102-81A00 (left)</li></ul><br>Type 2:<ul><li>44101-84A00 (right)</li><li>44102-84A00 (left)</li></ul><br>Type 3:<ul><li>44101-82A00 (right)</li><li>44102-82A00 (left)</li></ul>
|Type 1:<br>''Various''<br><br>Type 2:<br>1. [http://www.herthundbuss.com/en/new/online-catalogue.html Herth+Buss Jakoparts J2828040]<br>2. [http://www.nknjoints.com NKN N-5979-2HO]
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|Type 1:<ul><li>''Various''</li></ul><br><br>Type 2:<ul><li>[http://www.herthundbuss.com/en/new/online-catalogue.html Herth+Buss Jakoparts J2828040]</li><li>[http://hdkjapan.com/en/page/26/?search-class=DB_CustomSearch_Widget-db_customsearch_widget&widget_number=preset-default&cs-pref-0&cs-city-1&cs-area-2&search=Search HDK SU-039]</li><li>[http://www.nknjoints.com NKN N-5979-2HO]</li></ul><br><br>Type 3:<ul><li>''None known''</li></ul>
|Original Suzuki CV joints are galactically expensive because they always come pre-assembled together with a halfshaft.<br>The left and right Suzuki CV joint of the same type are identical, only the halfshafts are different.<br>See the chapter about CV joint types for more info about different CV joint types.
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|<ul><li>All original Suzuki CV joints are galactically expensive because they always come pre-assembled together with a halfshaft.</li><li>The left and right Suzuki CV joint of the same type are identical, only the halfshafts are different.</li><li>See the chapter about CV joint types for more info about different CV joint types.</li><li>For type '''3''': The best replacement solution is described in the subchapter [[#Replacement solutions for type 3 CV joint|"'''Replacement solution for type 3 CV joint'''"]].</li></ul>
 
|-
 
|-
|Halfshaft oil seal
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|Halfshaft<br>oil<br>seal
 
|1 piece
 
|1 piece
 
|09283-26016
 
|09283-26016
|Any seal with dimensions:<br>"26 x 38 x 9" (best fit);<br>"26 x 38 x 8" (good fit);<br>"26 x 38 x 7" (okay fit);
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|Any seal with dimensions:<ul><li>26 x 38 x 9 (best fit)</li><li>26 x 38 x 8 (good fit)</li><li>26 x 38 x 7 (okay fit)</li></ul>
|Changing this part is not strictly needed in this procedure, especially if it is found to be in good condition after all the dismantling.<br>However, since it is so cheap compared to the CV joint, and since you will need it sooner or later anyway, it is recommended to preventively obtain one now.<br>Original Suzuki seal is recommended, because it has special "double lip" construction.<br>Aftermarket seals usually do not have double lips.<br>Also, most of them are shallower (8 mm or even 7 mm depth compared to Suzuki's 9 mm).<br>While a shallower seal is not a critical mismatch, is is always better to avoid them, because shallower seals have smaller sealing / contact area.
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|<ul><li>Replacing this part is not strictly needed in this procedure, especially if it is found to be in good condition after all the dismantling.</li><li>However, since it is so cheap compared to the CV joint, and since you will need it sooner or later anyway, it is recommended to preventively obtain one now.</li><li>Original Suzuki seal is recommended, because it has special "double lip" construction.</li><li>Aftermarket seals usually do not have double lips.</li><li>Also, most of them are shallower (8 mm or even 7 mm depth compared to Suzuki's 9 mm).</li><li>While a shallower seal is not a critical mismatch, is is always better to avoid them, because shallower seals have smaller sealing / contact area.</li></ul>
 
|-
 
|-
|Steering knuckle swivel seal
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|Steering<br>knuckle<br>swivel<br>seal
 
|1 piece
 
|1 piece
 
|45120-81A04
 
|45120-81A04
 
|Febest SZOS-001
 
|Febest SZOS-001
|Might not be needed if the current one is not worn out.<br>Its condition is easy to check just by thoroughly looking under the vehicle.<br>Check if the seal's lip is torn, cracked, jammed, kinked, etc.<br>The current P.N. is the 4th (best quality) revision by Suzuki.<br>There used to be older revisions (ending with 81A01, 81A02 and 81A03).<br>Buy an older revision only if it is on a good discount!<br>All those revisions are mutually fully compatible.<br>Buy the Febest replacement only if you can't obtain any Suzuki's original seal.
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|<ul><li>Might not be needed if the current one is not worn out.</li><li>Its condition is easy to check just by thoroughly looking at it under the vehicle (no need to dismantle anything).</li><li>Check if the seal's lip is torn, cracked, jammed, kinked, etc.</li><li>The current P.N. is the 4th (best quality) revision by Suzuki.</li><li>There used to be older revisions (ending with 81A01, 81A02 and 81A03).</li><li>Buy an older revision only if it is on a good discount!</li><li>All those revisions are mutually fully compatible.</li><li>Buy the Febest replacement only if you can't obtain any Suzuki's original seal.</li></ul>
 
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|-
|Differential oil
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|Differential<br>oil
|1.1 - 1.65 litre
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|1.1<br>-<br>1.65<br>litre
|Who cares
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|Who cares?
|See the wiki article:<br>[[Forecourt|'''"Forecourt"''']]
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|See [[Regular maintenance intervals and consumables|'''this''']] and [[Fluids and filters - proper selection|'''this''']]<br>wiki articles<br>for important details!
|Not strictly needed (if you jack up only one side of the car, no oil will leak from the axle).<br>However, it is a good idea to change it if the schedule for its replacement is due anyway.
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|<ul><li>Not strictly needed (if you jack up only one side of the car, no oil will leak from the axle).</li><li>However, it is a good idea to change it if the schedule for its replacement is due anyway.</li></ul>
 
|-
 
|-
|Heavy-duty nuclear-proof grease
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|Heavy<br>duty<br>grease(s)
|A handful or so
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|A<br>handful<br>or so
 
|?
 
|?
|[https://www.zeller-gmelin.de/downloads/ti/23980/de/TI-DE-23980.pdf Divinol Fett Top 2003 (23980)];<br>
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|<ul><li>[http://www.maximausa.com/product/waterproof-grease/ Maxima 80916]</li><li>[https://www.zeller-gmelin.de/downloads/ti/23980/de/TI-DE-23980.pdf Divinol Fett Top 2003<br>(23980)]</li><li>[http://www.abro.com/lg-990.html Abro LG-990] <br>(here are<br>[https://abro-rus.ru/catalog/smazki-/smazka-litievaya-sinyaya-sinteticheskaya-3/?sphrase_id=5609 more detailed spec's])</li></ul>
|This is perhaps the most important part!<br>A super-durable ''water-and-mud-and-everything-else'' resistant grease is essential for the steering knuckle assembly and for the king pin bearings, to protect from grit, water and mud, which will '''certainly''' enter the steering knuckle (one of Jimny's main weaknesses).<br>Forum user Bosanek has had excellent experience with the stated Divinol 23980 grease.<br>This grease is truly wicked - fluorescent green, super thick, very sticky and gooey, like a slime from another galaxy.<br>After a year of hard use, the steering knuckles were opened and it was like a mass grave inside, but this Divinol grease repelled all the grit and sh*t away from the king pin bearings, still keeping them fully and cleanly greased!<br>On the other hand, this Divinol 23980 grease ''might'' not be suitable for use in a CV joint (just a presumption because it is very thick and "gooey" - somebody has yet to try it in a CV joint).<br>See the next item for a field-proven CV joint grease.<br>Others are welcome to add their own recommendations to the list!
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|<ul><li>Proper grease selection and application is perhaps the most important part of this job, which is often overlooked!</li><li>Read the notes below the table for more details.</li></ul>
 
|-
 
|-
|Heavy-duty CV joint grease
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|Gasketing<br>sealant
|A handful or so
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|A<br>small tube
 
|?
 
|?
|[http://www.abro.com/lg-990.html Abro LG-990] (here are [https://abro-rus.ru/catalog/smazki-/smazka-litievaya-sinyaya-sinteticheskaya-3/?sphrase_id=5609 more detailed specifications]);<br>
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|<ul><li>[http://www.loctite.co.uk/loctite-4087.htm?nodeid=8802627420161 Loctite SI 5920]</li></ul>
|This is also an extremely important part!<br>A heavy-duty ''water-and-mud-and-everything-else'' resistant grease is essential to keep your CV joint protected from grit, water and mud, which will '''certainly''' enter the steering knuckle (one of Jimny's main weaknesses).<br>However, a CV joint grease also has to have proper greasing viscosity and consistency (e.g. non-liquifying) properties even under heavy load, high temperatures and high velocities.<br>Forum user Bosanek has had very good experience with the stated Abro LG-990 fully synthetic lithium grease when used in a CV joint.<br> It is not nearly as tough as the wicked Divinol 23980 grease, but on the other hand, it is a "safe bet" to keep the sensitive CV joint properly greased in all operating conditions.<br>Others are welcome to add their own recommendations to the list!
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|<ul><li>A thin application of good quality, high-temperature resistant "gasketing" sealant is needed for proper mating of the king pins to the steering knuckle.</li><li>This is a small part which often gets forgotten when preparing for this repair job.</li></ul>
 
|-
 
|-
|A calendar with pictures of (half)naked women
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|A calendar<br>with<br>pictures of<br>(half)naked<br>women
|12 pictures / months
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|12<br>pictures<br>/<br>months
|Who cares
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|Probably<br>with portraits<br>of Suzuki's<br>female<br>employees
|Claudia Schiffer;<br>Ana Kournikova;<br>Monica Bellucci;<br>Salma Hayek;<br>Bridgitte Bardot;
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|<ul><li>Claudia Schiffer</li><li>Ana Kournikova</li><li>Monica Bellucci</li><li>Salma Hayek</li><li>Pamela Anderson</li></ul>
|An essential part of pleasant working experience in most mechanical garages;<br>It is recommended to flip over calendar's pages / months one by one as you progress trough each step in this guide;
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|<ul><li>An essential part for pleasant working experience in most mechanical garages.</li><li>It is recommended to flip over calendar's pages / months one by one as you progress trough each step in this guide.</li></ul>
 
|}
 
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</font>
 
</font>
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==== Parts offered in BigJimny Store ====
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The BigJimny Store has the following parts from the above table on sale:
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* The following CV joint types (''see the dedicated chapter about CV joints above for more info''):
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** [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html CV joint type 1];
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** [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/cv-joint-type-1.html CV joint type 2];
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* A proper [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/front-axle-oil-seal.html halfshaft oil seal];
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* The large [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/swivel/knuckle-seal-suzuki-jimny.html swivel/knuckle seal];
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* A suitable [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/waterproof-grease.html heavy duty waterproof grease];
 +
* A suitable [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/loctite-premium-copper/silicone-sealant.html sealant] for king pins;
 +
* Sorry, no calendars with pictures of naked women (nor men for that matter) are in store's offer (yet)!
 +
 +
 +
==== Notes about greases ====
 +
 +
 +
General notes about the selection and application of greases:
 +
* A super-durable ''water-and-mud-and-everything-else'' resistant grease(s) is essential to protect the steering knuckle assembly, the CV joint and especially the king pin bearings from ingress of grit, water and mud.
 +
* Those contaminants will '''certainly''' (rather sooner than later) enter into the steering knuckle.
 +
** Jimny's steering knuckle is poorly sealed by design - this is one of Jimny's main mechanical weaknesses.
 +
* Once inside, the contaminants will immediately (by the course of gravity) proceed towards the lower king pin bearing.
 +
** If the contaminants in the steering knuckle are present in significant quantities, not even the upper king pin bearing nor the CV joint will remain out of their reach.
 +
* If a grease with inadequate water, oil, grit and temperature resistance is used, the contaminants will quickly mix with the grease and eat away the bearings and even possibly the CV joint.
 +
** In certain "dirty / wet" situations, your newly rebuilt, shiny front steering knuckle assembly can get devastated again in just a couple of months of hard use.
 +
* The solution against the ingress of contaminants is '''not''' to overfill the bearings, the CV joint or the steering knuckle with blobs of grease in order to physically block their ingress.
 +
** The solution is to use a suitable heavy-duty all-resistant grease in normal quantities.
 +
* The lists of recommended aftermarket greases in the above table is by no means complete.
 +
** Others are welcome to add their own recommendations to the lists!
 +
 +
 +
Additional notes on Maxima 80916 grease:
 +
* This heavy duty lithium grease is the grease of choice on [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/waterproof-grease.html BigJimny shop].
 +
* It has proven itself very well in practice with several Jimny owners for lubricating and protecting king ping bearings, especially in Martin's many years of experience with it.
 +
* ''Martin should just clarify if this grease is well suitable for CV joints and wheel bearings too (it probably is).''
 +
 +
 +
Additional notes on Divinol 23980 grease:
 +
* Forum user Bosanek has had excellent experience with this calcium grease.
 +
** I used it only for the king pin bearings and for the steering knuckle.
 +
* This grease is truly wicked - fluorescent green, super thick, very sticky and gooey, like a "slime from another galaxy".
 +
* The steering knuckle wes opened after a year of hard use (after initially coating the king pin bearings and the steering knuckle with this grease) in order to replace a wheel bearing.
 +
** It was like a mass grave inside.
 +
*** However, this Divinol grease still repelled all the grit and sh*t away from itself (and from the king pin bearings) - still keeping the bearings fully and cleanly greased!
 +
* On the other hand, this Divinol 23980 grease ''might'' not be suitable for use in a CV joint nor in a wheel bearing.
 +
** This is just a presumption, because it is very thick and very "gooey" - but it might actually be great in  practice.
 +
*** Being thick and gooey does not mind at all for the king pin bearings (it's actually desirable), as they do not endure high velocity movements, very high temperatures or high torques and do not need precise lubrication viscosity and other lubrication properties (they "just" pivot around the wheel hub assembly with the wheel).
 +
** Somebody has yet to try this grease in a CV joint and in a wheel bearing and report the long-term effects.
 +
 +
 +
Additional notes on Abro LG-990 grease:
 +
* Forum user Bosanek has had very good experience with this fully synthetic lithium grease when used in a CV joint and in a wheel bearing.
 +
* It has a rather high heat resistance (almost 300 C liquifying point) and still claims good resistance against contaminants.
 +
* However, it does not feel nearly as "tough" in the hands as the really wicked Divinol 23980 grease.
 +
** But on the other hand, it is a "safe bet" to keep the sensitive CV joint and the hot-loaded wheel bearing properly greased in all operating conditions.
  
  
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* Now the KingPins need to be inserted, but first they need a bead of sealant around the KingPin.
 
* Now the KingPins need to be inserted, but first they need a bead of sealant around the KingPin.
* Again the BigJimny shop sells suitable [https://www.bigjimny.com/store/loctite-premium-copper/silicone-sealant.html sealant].
 
 
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Introduction

If you off-road a Jimny (or any of the Suzuki classic 4wd vehicles) then you may well end up changing a CV Joint. These are a weak point in the front axle and will break if you are heavy footed or have large tyres fitted.

It is also closely tied in with changing/working on the kingpin bearings so some of the steps are duplicated.

So what are the symptoms of worn/broken CV joints:

  • Clicking when in 4WD when turning;
  • Banging and snatching of the steering wheel;
  • Loss of 4WD transmission to a front wheel;


CV joint information

Identifying type

Suzuki uses three different CV joint types in the Jimny:

  • The 1st type is straight forward to purchase on the parts aftermarket, with offerings from several manufacturers.
  • The 2nd type is very hard to find on the parts aftermarket, with only one or two products.
  • Not much is known about the 3rd type, except that is was used by some (but not all) petrol Jimnys built by Santana in Spain.
    • No known aftermarket replacement product exists for the 3rd type.


Warning Icon.pngEnsure that you obtain the correct CV joint type for your vehicle!



Suzuki sells genuine CV joints only pre-assembled in a set together with halfshafts for a ************** expensive price (replace the word under the star symbols with an attribute of your choice). Since the left and the right halfshafts have different lengths, the left and right sets are different, although the "left" and the "right" CV joint are identical.


Suzuki P.N.s for genuine CV joint + halfshaft sets
Type 1 Type 2 Type 3
Left side set 44102-81A00 44102-84A00 44102-82A00
Right side set 44101-81A00 44101-84A00 44101-82A00


Technical specifications of CV joint types
CV joint Model used by Suzuki Balls Inner splines Outer splines Outer case diameter Inner case diameter Shaft diameter
Type 1 NTN BJ75LAC 6 19 26 91.6 mm 72.6 mm 19.0 mm
Type 2 NTN EBJ82 8 29 26 91.6 mm 72.6 mm 21.2 mm
Type 3 AYD 143 Y3 164 6 20 26 ? 72.6 mm 24.5 mm


Note Icon.pngCV joint type numbers (like type 1, 2 and 3) are not official Suzuki numbers. It's just a "BigJimny" nomenclature for easier reference.



Additional notes:

  • CV joint "NTN BJ75LAC" is also sometimes marked as "NTN 75LAC CT9U".
  • While NTN EBJ82 (which Suzuki originally sources and sells as their own) has 8 balls, it appears that all aftermarket replacements have 6 balls.
    • This is not a critical mismatch - the replacements will fit just fine.
      • Only the longevity is questionable (like with any aftermarket part).
    • Good luck finding any of these NTN CV joints anywhere on the aftermarket!
      • You will probably have to buy aftermarket CV joints from some other manufacturers.
  • If anyone knows anything more about type 3 CV joints which are specific to some Santana Jimnys, please contribute to the table above!
  • It appears that no aftermarket manufacturer makes equivalent type 3 CV joints.
    • If you find one, please add info!


Replacement solutions for type 3 CV joint

  • If you determine that your broken CV joint is the abandoned and virtually unsupported type 3, life might still be worth living.
  • It is almost hopeless trying to find a used type 3 CV joint, and straight on masochistic asking a quote form Suzuki for original replacement.


  • The best long term solution in this case is to convert away from type 3 to either type 1 or type 2.
    • Type 1 is the recommended solution, because it has much better aftermarket support than type 2.
  • The conversion is dead simple and can be done on one front wheel / axle side only at a time, and on the other at any later point in time.
    • The entire conversion consists just of replacing your original halfshaft (which should have 26 splines on the end which enters the differential and 20 splines on the end which enters the CV joint) with a Jimny halfshaft which has the same number of splines (26) on the differential end and either 19 (for type 1) or 29 (for type 2) splines on the CV joint end.
      • This is all that it is needed in order to be able to install a type 1 (preferred) or type 2 CV joint as equivalent as it would have been a factory setup.


  • Note: Left and right halfshafts have different lengths - do not mix them up when obtaining the replacement!
  • The cheapest and simplest way of performing this solution should be to buy entire used type 1 or type 2 "CV joint + halfshaft" assembly (for the matching side of the car) from a vehicle scrap yard.
    • Even better, obtain just a used halfshaft (if anyone happens to offers it separately) and then buy a brand new aftermarket replacement CV joint.
    • While the condition of a used CV joint is a lucky draw and is usually hard to visually inspect, it is very rare for a used halfshaft to be damaged, unless it comes from a beat-up offroader tonka-toy car.


CV joint vs. vehicle compatibility

Compatibility table

Notes about the table below:

  • No guarantees are made about the accuracy of the data in the table.
    • In other words, your vehicle may be an exception from the classifications which are presented in the table.
  • Check the specific CV joint type for your vehicle before ordering!
    • The most reliable method is by checking the OEM P.N. of a "CV joint + halfshaft" set with a local Suzuki dealer, based on your vehicle's VIN.


Compatibility of CV joint types with different Jimny editions
Engine Country of
manufacture
VIN code
(first 9 characters)
VIN code
(last 8 characters)
CV joint
type
G13BB Japan JSAFJB33V ANY Type 1
G13BB Spain VSEFJB33V ANY Type 3
M13A Japan JSAFJB43V up to 00186627
up to 40160140
Type 1
M13A Japan JSAFJB43V from 00186628
from 40160141
Type 2
M13A Spain VSEFJB43V ?ANY? Type 3
K9K 700
K9K 266
Japan ЈSAFJB53V ANY Type 2
K9K 700
K9K 266
Spain VSEFJB53V ANY Type 2


Pictures of Type 1 CV joints



Pictures of Type 2 CV joints

Original NTN EBJ82 CV joint


  • Above is the genuine NTN EBJ82 CV joint which Suzuki sells only in a super-duper-expensive set together with either a left or a right halfshaft.
  • This one was removed from a type 6 Jimny after it fell apart.
    • Therefore, there are no pictures of its internals as all the balls and internal pieces fell out during removal of the CV joint.
      • However we counted 8 balls which fell out of it on the floor!






Pictures of Type 3 CV joints


Add more pictures of type 3 if you have them!


Prerequisites

Before embarking onto any work, first comes the overview of the prerequisites.


Required parts

The table

Required and recommended parts and fluids (for one side / wheel)
Part name Quantity Suzuki P.N. Aftermarket replacements Comments
Constant
velocity
joint
1 piece Type 1:
  • 44101-81A00 (right)
  • 44102-81A00 (left)

Type 2:
  • 44101-84A00 (right)
  • 44102-84A00 (left)

Type 3:
  • 44101-82A00 (right)
  • 44102-82A00 (left)
Type 1:
  • Various


Type 2:

Type 3:
  • None known
  • All original Suzuki CV joints are galactically expensive because they always come pre-assembled together with a halfshaft.
  • The left and right Suzuki CV joint of the same type are identical, only the halfshafts are different.
  • See the chapter about CV joint types for more info about different CV joint types.
  • For type 3: The best replacement solution is described in the subchapter "Replacement solution for type 3 CV joint".
Halfshaft
oil
seal
1 piece 09283-26016 Any seal with dimensions:
  • 26 x 38 x 9 (best fit)
  • 26 x 38 x 8 (good fit)
  • 26 x 38 x 7 (okay fit)
  • Replacing this part is not strictly needed in this procedure, especially if it is found to be in good condition after all the dismantling.
  • However, since it is so cheap compared to the CV joint, and since you will need it sooner or later anyway, it is recommended to preventively obtain one now.
  • Original Suzuki seal is recommended, because it has special "double lip" construction.
  • Aftermarket seals usually do not have double lips.
  • Also, most of them are shallower (8 mm or even 7 mm depth compared to Suzuki's 9 mm).
  • While a shallower seal is not a critical mismatch, is is always better to avoid them, because shallower seals have smaller sealing / contact area.
Steering
knuckle
swivel
seal
1 piece 45120-81A04 Febest SZOS-001
  • Might not be needed if the current one is not worn out.
  • Its condition is easy to check just by thoroughly looking at it under the vehicle (no need to dismantle anything).
  • Check if the seal's lip is torn, cracked, jammed, kinked, etc.
  • The current P.N. is the 4th (best quality) revision by Suzuki.
  • There used to be older revisions (ending with 81A01, 81A02 and 81A03).
  • Buy an older revision only if it is on a good discount!
  • All those revisions are mutually fully compatible.
  • Buy the Febest replacement only if you can't obtain any Suzuki's original seal.
Differential
oil
1.1
-
1.65
litre
Who cares? See this and this
wiki articles
for important details!
  • Not strictly needed (if you jack up only one side of the car, no oil will leak from the axle).
  • However, it is a good idea to change it if the schedule for its replacement is due anyway.
Heavy
duty
grease(s)
A
handful
or so
?
  • Proper grease selection and application is perhaps the most important part of this job, which is often overlooked!
  • Read the notes below the table for more details.
Gasketing
sealant
A
small tube
?
  • A thin application of good quality, high-temperature resistant "gasketing" sealant is needed for proper mating of the king pins to the steering knuckle.
  • This is a small part which often gets forgotten when preparing for this repair job.
A calendar
with
pictures of
(half)naked
women
12
pictures
/
months
Probably
with portraits
of Suzuki's
female
employees
  • Claudia Schiffer
  • Ana Kournikova
  • Monica Bellucci
  • Salma Hayek
  • Pamela Anderson
  • An essential part for pleasant working experience in most mechanical garages.
  • It is recommended to flip over calendar's pages / months one by one as you progress trough each step in this guide.


Parts offered in BigJimny Store

The BigJimny Store has the following parts from the above table on sale:


Notes about greases

General notes about the selection and application of greases:

  • A super-durable water-and-mud-and-everything-else resistant grease(s) is essential to protect the steering knuckle assembly, the CV joint and especially the king pin bearings from ingress of grit, water and mud.
  • Those contaminants will certainly (rather sooner than later) enter into the steering knuckle.
    • Jimny's steering knuckle is poorly sealed by design - this is one of Jimny's main mechanical weaknesses.
  • Once inside, the contaminants will immediately (by the course of gravity) proceed towards the lower king pin bearing.
    • If the contaminants in the steering knuckle are present in significant quantities, not even the upper king pin bearing nor the CV joint will remain out of their reach.
  • If a grease with inadequate water, oil, grit and temperature resistance is used, the contaminants will quickly mix with the grease and eat away the bearings and even possibly the CV joint.
    • In certain "dirty / wet" situations, your newly rebuilt, shiny front steering knuckle assembly can get devastated again in just a couple of months of hard use.
  • The solution against the ingress of contaminants is not to overfill the bearings, the CV joint or the steering knuckle with blobs of grease in order to physically block their ingress.
    • The solution is to use a suitable heavy-duty all-resistant grease in normal quantities.
  • The lists of recommended aftermarket greases in the above table is by no means complete.
    • Others are welcome to add their own recommendations to the lists!


Additional notes on Maxima 80916 grease:

  • This heavy duty lithium grease is the grease of choice on BigJimny shop.
  • It has proven itself very well in practice with several Jimny owners for lubricating and protecting king ping bearings, especially in Martin's many years of experience with it.
  • Martin should just clarify if this grease is well suitable for CV joints and wheel bearings too (it probably is).


Additional notes on Divinol 23980 grease:

  • Forum user Bosanek has had excellent experience with this calcium grease.
    • I used it only for the king pin bearings and for the steering knuckle.
  • This grease is truly wicked - fluorescent green, super thick, very sticky and gooey, like a "slime from another galaxy".
  • The steering knuckle wes opened after a year of hard use (after initially coating the king pin bearings and the steering knuckle with this grease) in order to replace a wheel bearing.
    • It was like a mass grave inside.
      • However, this Divinol grease still repelled all the grit and sh*t away from itself (and from the king pin bearings) - still keeping the bearings fully and cleanly greased!
  • On the other hand, this Divinol 23980 grease might not be suitable for use in a CV joint nor in a wheel bearing.
    • This is just a presumption, because it is very thick and very "gooey" - but it might actually be great in practice.
      • Being thick and gooey does not mind at all for the king pin bearings (it's actually desirable), as they do not endure high velocity movements, very high temperatures or high torques and do not need precise lubrication viscosity and other lubrication properties (they "just" pivot around the wheel hub assembly with the wheel).
    • Somebody has yet to try this grease in a CV joint and in a wheel bearing and report the long-term effects.


Additional notes on Abro LG-990 grease:

  • Forum user Bosanek has had very good experience with this fully synthetic lithium grease when used in a CV joint and in a wheel bearing.
  • It has a rather high heat resistance (almost 300 C liquifying point) and still claims good resistance against contaminants.
  • However, it does not feel nearly as "tough" in the hands as the really wicked Divinol 23980 grease.
    • But on the other hand, it is a "safe bet" to keep the sensitive CV joint and the hot-loaded wheel bearing properly greased in all operating conditions.


Required tools

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  • Standard metric sockets and spanners
  • Assorted screwdrivers
  • Circlip pliers (external)
  • An E10 Torx socket for the vacuum hub head bolts
  • A ball joint splitter
  • 1" imperial Socket
  • G-Clamp or brake piston retractor
  • A Big F.....g Hammer (only if you have anger management problems)




CV joint replacement procedure

The Video

Before you read the guide below you may wish to view the video of changing the Kingpin bearings. This shows most of the steps for a CV joint so is a useful reference.


Removing the Caliper and pads

Jimny Front Caliper
  • First of all secure the car.
  • Release the wheel nuts and jack up the car and remove the road wheel.
  • This then reveals the brake caliper.
  • The picture shows the passenger side (nearside) caliper (UK).


Unbolting the caliper
  • Using a 12mm spanner, release the front caliper bolt (the left is the front of the car in this picture).
  • Then loosen the same bolt on the rear of the caliper.


Open brake caliper
  • The caliper then opens up using the rear bolt as a hinge.


Removing the brake pads
  • The pads are retained by small spring clips.
  • A simple pull on the pads (horizontally away from the disk) should remove them.
  • If the pads resist, gently prise out the pads with a small screwdriver - do not remove the spring clips).
  • If you require new pads, spring clips or a caliper fitting kit then these are available in the BigJimny Store.



Removing the Brake Disc

Carrier bolt
  • The caliper is held on with two bolts at the rear (see below).


Caliper tied to Spring
  • Release the bolts and tie the caliper to the spring to keep it out of the way.


Disc removal using bolt
  • Now the front brake disc can be removed.
  • If you are lucky it will simply pull off, but if you have problems then there are two M8 holes in the disk hub.
  • Simply run two bolts into these holes and the disk will push off the hub.
  • The picture shows a bolt being used to push the disk off the hub.


  • My disk appeared to be ok on the visible side but the rear showed some bad wear so I will change them as part of this job.
  • New disks are available in the BigJimny Store.



Dismantling the Hub

Torx bolt on hub
  • Now the Freewheeling Hub needs to be removed.
  • Suzuki have used Torx bolts to secure these so you will require an E10 socket to remove the bolts.


Removing the circlip
  • With the hub removed, the driveshaft is exposed.
  • The driveshaft is retained with a circlip, so use a pair of circlip pliers to remove it.
  • This is really fiddly and can be an annoying task.
  • Behind the circlip is a rectangular washer that should also be removed.
  • Note that I have also marked with white paint the orientation of the freewheeling hub, this is not strictly needed.


removing a vacuum pipe
  • Gently pull the two vacuum hoses for the hub from the knuckle, making sure you note which one connects to each pipe.
  • It is essential that you get this correct else the hub will not work again.
  • Also note that if you have an ABS equipped vehicle then you will have to remove the sensor.
  • I do not have photos of this but the video shows it.

Warning Icon.pngIt is really easy to shear the ABS bolt! If you can, soak it for a couple of days previously in penetrating oil.



Removing the swivel seal bolts
  • At the rear of the hub, release the small bolts holding the seal and retainer.
  • You can see that the swivel hub is covered in oil, a bad sign for KingPin problems.


Splitting the ball joint
  • Undo the nuts on the steering joints.
  • If the joint rotates, then put a jack under the joint and lift the car slightly to lock the joint.
  • Using a splitter, split the steering joints (two to do on the passenger side and one on the drivers side – UK).


undoing the Kingpin bolts
  • Finally, release the KingPin bolts themselves.
  • There are two sets, top and bottom and they must not be mixed.
  • You can see in the picture that I have marked them up with a letter T.
  • If you are doing both sides at once then do not mix them across either!.
  • The KingPins are also held in with sticky sealant so you will need to prise them out.


  • The hub will now pull off and the driveshaft can be removed.
  • Depending on how broken the CV is, the shaft may come out in two pieces.


  • The next stage is to CLEAN, CLEAN and then CLEAN again.
  • Clean the swivels inside and out, clean the knuckles and make sure all broken CV parts are removed.


Removing the C-Clip
  • The CV Joint is held on the driveshaft by a hidden C-Clip.
  • The only way to dismantle a whole CV Joint (yours may already be in bits if you have really broken it!) is to drive the joint off with a hammer.
  • Clamp the driveshaft into a vice and, holding the joint VERY straight, hit the cup with a hammer and drive it off.


New CV Joint
  • Now put the new C-clip onto the shaft and tap the new joint into place.



Re-assembly

  • This is basically the reverse process.
  • You may wish to change the king pin bearings and oil seals at this point if you wish.
  • If you are changing the large seal then now is the time to put the new one on.
  • The confusing part is the order of the seals and rings on the swivel, the picture below is of the correct orientation, note also that the slits in the retainers go to the top.


The greased CV joint
  • Pack the CV with grease (but do not overpack) and re-fit the driveshaft.
  • A suitable waterproof grease is available in the BigJimny Shop.


Applying sealant
  • Grease the new KingPin bearings and insert the top one in the carrier.
  • I find the easiest way to grease the bearings is to put them in a polythene bag with some grease and use the bag to squeeze the grease into the bearing, this can be seen in the video. (picture needed here).
  • Carefully insert the new bottom bearing and, holding it in place, slide the whole knuckle onto the hub.
  • Fill the Knuckle with 100ml of grease, Suzuki recommend only 100ml and not to overfill.
  • Now the KingPins need to be inserted, but first they need a bead of sealant around the KingPin.


  • Make sure that you have put the correct Kingpin in place.
  • Remember you should have marked them when you dismantled them!
  • Bolt the Kingpins in and tighten them to the correct torque (18ft/lbs).
  • Refit the steering arm (or arms if it is the side with two connections), tightening the nuts to 31ft/lbs.
  • Fit the disk and fit the caliper (Caliper bolts 61ft/lbs), brake pads and bolt the caliper down in position (Caliper pin bolt 16/ft/lbs).
  • Re-fit the wheel and lower the vehicle.


Torque Settings

Full details of the torque settings can be found in the reference data


Additional reading



Page last edited on 17/01/2021 by user Bosanek