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02 Jan 2018 20:06 #187977 by furo
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When my wide wheels didn't fit I got a set of old stock steel wheels (for free from cameronmike on here) and had them shotblasted and painted black. It wasn't cheap but the end result is awesome, and I reckon they look better than what I had before.

Busta - that looks awesome. I think if I were to replace my 2004 with a newer Jimny I would do what you have done there. Have you done any other modifications?

2004 Jimny Mode; General Grabber AT3s (215/75/R15); Trailmaster 2" Lift; Jimnybits Snorkel; Jimnybits Front and Rear Recovery Points; Osram Nightbreakers; Suntop Roof Rack; AVM Manual Hubs; ORA Radius Arm Guards; Stainless Steel Exhaust System.

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02 Jan 2018 22:09 #187979 by Daniel30
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Mine is 3" trail master love it to bits but if I had my time again I would just do 2" lift ;)
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02 Jan 2018 22:34 #187980 by TomDK
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Daniel30 wrote: Mine is 3" trail master love it to bits but if I had my time again I would just do 2" lift ;)


no worries then. The 3" Trail Master springs are in reality only 2" longer than stock springs :)

+3" Trail Master. Fox 8.0" R/R shocks. ORA HD winchbumper. Warn M8274 Ox-motor + Hellfire gears, Delta-Tek mainshaft and freespool, overvolted. 33/9.5 R16 Silverstone Extreme. 5.14:1 ratio SJ transferbox in RW cradle. OMP rollcage.

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02 Jan 2018 22:49 #187981 by Daniel30
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So what are the 2"lift then Tom?

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02 Jan 2018 23:19 - 02 Jan 2018 23:32 #187982 by TomDK
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The same. Trail Master 3" springs are 368 mm free length. Same goes for 2" petrol springs. 2" diesel springs are 353 mm free length. 3" and 2" diesel springs are made of 13mm wire. Petrol springs are made of 12mm wire.

Standard Jimny front springs are 330 mm free length. So it's actually more like 1.5" shorter than TM springs.

+3" Trail Master. Fox 8.0" R/R shocks. ORA HD winchbumper. Warn M8274 Ox-motor + Hellfire gears, Delta-Tek mainshaft and freespool, overvolted. 33/9.5 R16 Silverstone Extreme. 5.14:1 ratio SJ transferbox in RW cradle. OMP rollcage.
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02 Jan 2018 23:37 #187983 by Daniel30
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Oh OK then confused now why I would need castor correct arms maybe I'm getting my wires crossed then :)

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03 Jan 2018 05:01 #187986 by Lambert
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It's not just the free length of the spring its also the wire diameter and number of coils that make a difference. Stock spring wire is 10mm and lift spring wire is 12 13 or even 15mm so it is going to be stronger and compress less from the same starting point with the same load. There are equations that allow it to be calculated but 5am is way too early for that.

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03 Jan 2018 07:29 #187991 by TomDK
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But of course.. thought that was obvious.

Spring rate calculators are easily found online and can be a great help when figuring out what springs to choose.

+3" Trail Master. Fox 8.0" R/R shocks. ORA HD winchbumper. Warn M8274 Ox-motor + Hellfire gears, Delta-Tek mainshaft and freespool, overvolted. 33/9.5 R16 Silverstone Extreme. 5.14:1 ratio SJ transferbox in RW cradle. OMP rollcage.

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03 Jan 2018 08:07 #187993 by Lambert
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It is to me , I was just posting for clarity for those with a less technical inclination.

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03 Jan 2018 08:16 #187995 by Busta
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11/60 wrote: From how you have described the suspension on yours in the past with the fronts on the back I was expecting a hotrod esque raked nose down stance, but in the picture it's almost level?


Yes, it's quite subtle. My Jimny's have always sat low at the rear anyway and I prefer the level look. It probably helps that the springs on the back are off another used Jimny so will already have a bit of sag.

furo wrote: Busta - that looks awesome. I think if I were to replace my 2004 with a newer Jimny I would do what you have done there. Have you done any other modifications?


2-low switch, home made roof bars. That's it. Works perfectly well for me just how it is! Only thing I will be doing is fitting a 1.6 as and when I get the chance.
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03 Jan 2018 09:43 #187999 by TomDK
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11/60 wrote: It is to me , I was just posting for clarity for those with a less technical inclination.


Yeah.. sorry you're right.

Some (me) tend to forget that ;)

+3" Trail Master. Fox 8.0" R/R shocks. ORA HD winchbumper. Warn M8274 Ox-motor + Hellfire gears, Delta-Tek mainshaft and freespool, overvolted. 33/9.5 R16 Silverstone Extreme. 5.14:1 ratio SJ transferbox in RW cradle. OMP rollcage.

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03 Jan 2018 10:20 #188001 by mlines
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This is why I like the Trailmaster product, some design thought has gone into it. Other suppliers simply add 3" inches to the standard spring length and call it a 3" lift. This often results in lifts greater than advertised (ie. a 2" lift closer to 3") but the ride and longevity of the lift (springs sagging and bending) is affected.

I have the Trailmaster 3" springs on mine and I am very please with the ride. However I have a lot of weight on the front so it was not quite a 3" lift at the front and they do not do a Diesel spring in 3". I topped it up with a pair of spring spacers to level the car off.

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2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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