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24 Nov 2019 03:46 #215922 by zukebob
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Wanting to centralize my additional switches and temperature gauge, I am planning on having a switch panel made that I can mount on the headliner just rearward of the interior rear view mirror.

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or this if I decide I also want my dual band radio here


I've fairly well exhausted finding an adequate producer here in the Philippines and have decided that I will need to go online. I was wondering if anyone on the forum has some experience or feedback they can provide on a quality outfit that does 3D printing.

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24 Nov 2019 07:20 #215924 by Riccy
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Look at vac forming. Not hard to make your own...

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25 Nov 2019 00:20 #215939 by zukebob
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Thanks Riccy. The material properties of a formed part would have some advantage over the layering of a 3D print. Do you have a feel of cost comparison when it is likely to be a single piece production?

The information I have here is that a 3D printed part would cost about £120. The problem is that they have neither the equipment to do the type of print I want nor the material I am after. I'm not sure what the cost would be for a DIY vacuum table and pattern. Any idea of comparison?

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25 Nov 2019 07:41 #215940 by Daniel30
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Keithy has done a bit of vacuum forming maybe worth a chat
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25 Nov 2019 07:49 #215942 by Riccy
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Yeah Kiethy is much better at it than me and has better equipment.

Costs would be about £15-20 for plywood to make the vac box out of and some rubber seals (draft excluder stick on strip for doors).

The sheets of plastic I bought 2mm pin-seal finish from ebay. Think it was 3 sheets for £15, but they can be bought much cheaper than that. Thinner might have worked better.

The blank was easy enough to make from some scrap steel and plywood.

After that its just time to make the box and seal it (simple), make the blank (fairly simple), heat the plastic and pull it. I would say of the three I had a go at, only one of them came out good. The others look OK until you get close so are rejects.

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25 Nov 2019 08:44 #215944 by zukebob
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Thanks Riccy and Daniel. I will start doing some digging for equipment plans and materials.

Interested to hear Keithy's feedback. I would like to determine the best path forward soon so I can't give him more than 2 months to reply. After that, I will flood his inbox.

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25 Nov 2019 12:26 #215952 by Jezz
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If it can be printed, Would it not work out cheaper to buy a 3d printer and do it yourself ?
That said i know zero about 3d printers, But you could print the part and still have a printer for other projects.

It's been fettled just a tad.
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26 Nov 2019 17:26 #215982 by Keithy
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I have a 3D printer and a couple of vac formers......I think for around £4 it could be printed.....but it's a poor method due to the layering.

I'd vac form it....you have the drawing already.....possibly I could machine a pattern and drop it in a gap next time I form some arches.

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27 Nov 2019 01:22 #215999 by zukebob
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Thanks Keithy. So as not to make this thread overly boring, I will send you a PM with a few questions. By the way, the hurry to figure the best way was a joke. As I mentioned in my first post, I haven't even decided yet whether I want to integrate the face of my Yaesu FT7900 radio or keep it switches and gauge only.

Jezz: I'm definitely not an expert on 3D printing and I had initially thought about investing in a printer. What I have learned (come to understand) is that printers capable of doing the best quality parts are quite expensive. Unfortunately, the disadvantage of being produced through a layering process, although much less depending on equipment and method, is still there.

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27 Nov 2019 09:50 #216013 by Keithy
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I'd recommend having a 3D printer....great for prototyping.

I paid £150 for mine and if I use 0.1mm steps it's quite strong!

A friend has a company making mouldings and he bought an A3 resin machine for 15k.....that'd make a finished part strong enough......he has an injection moulding machine which would make a nice job of it too....spensive though lol

The hard part is the drawing up of the part....it seems you have that covered.

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28 Nov 2019 02:46 - 28 Nov 2019 02:48 #216028 by zukebob
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I may consider a 3D printer. Unless you are saying it is possible to produce a decent quality final part, I would be able to use it to make an initial pattern for doing a vacuum formed part. A two step process I guess. Print a pattern to use to create a mold. That way I could cast using a material that would be better in the vacuum forming process.

I will still send you a pm after doing a little more studying. Hopefully I can then ask an intelligent question. That would be a refreshing change.

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