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BigJimny Meet 2019 (17 May 2019)

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01 Oct 2019 17:40 #214116 by Stewarthunt1
Hi All,
I'm looking at buying a Jimny as we've had 2 bad Winters now in succession and I like to think I won't be stranded. I really liked the older Soft top jimnys but found info that mentioned these were built in Spain to a lesser quality. Do any soft toppers agree with the lesser quality and can you go wrong in buying a soft topper?
Thanks

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01 Oct 2019 17:41 #214117 by Stewarthunt1
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Is it also possible to get soft top conversions on hard tops? Sorry if that's a ridiculous question.

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01 Oct 2019 18:35 - 01 Oct 2019 18:37 #214119 by Scimike
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Hello and Welcome.
I am not 100% sure the Spain / Japan manufacture quality difference is based on any real evidence other than people's expectations of products from the two countries. They both suffer rust problems and have potentially the same mechanical issues, but it is conceivable that the soft top is more susceptible to the elements and the associated extra rust or water damage. Having said all that they are both very reliable and simple vehicles, but you need to check any before you purchase. If you like the soft top I would look for one in good condition, but my gut feeling is that there are more hard tops around and so more choices.
Not aware you can get a "off the shelf" conversion to make a soft top unless you are happy to get the grinder out and make your own.
Stand to be corrected, I only have experience of the hard roof variety, simply for security reasons.
Have fun
Mike
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01 Oct 2019 18:50 #214122 by Max Headroom
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A BIGJimny welcome top the forums Stewart, and greetings from the Cotswold Hills.

Firstly to answer your last post, the soft-top body and tin-top body are two different animals.
I understand that there is a fibreglass hard-top that can fit the convertibles through winter, but to me - I just dont get the point.

I am the owner of a late soft top. As a lover of open-air motoring for the past 40 years, I feel it islikely that I will never own another "tin-can" if I can help it.

Luckily I have my neighbour's tin-top Jimny to compare mine to, and to be honest I don't see very much difference.
Cotswold Jimny are based in Blockley just up the road from me and couldnt say a good word about the open-top varieties saying they would never have anything to do with them when I made enquiries about buying one. They said all the part numbers where different; the hoods were useless; and the cars as a whole were more trouble than they were worth.
I was dismayed when, after I'd made my enquirie, and gone ahead and bought elsewhere, I found them selling two examples.

My brother owned an O2 model from new and never had any quality issues with it - he loved the car and only sold it to assist with financing a house purchase. During his tenure he enjoyed many years of open motoring with it, and it was based on his experience of ownership that I bought mine.

The main things to look out for are corrosion - but while thats also true of the tin-tops, however if leaking weather-equipment on the convertibles has not been addressed quickly then the rot can set in from the inside out. - most noteable is the boot area where the jack is stowed.

The rear hood, and the targa (the bit above the driver) is easily available and can be replaced. The quality of the original hoods is pretty poor when compared to the likes of a 1980s MG and it was also poorly designed. The quality of the replacements is different to the original but still not ideal.

I have recently fitted a fastback hood for now, while the full hood is off in order to get some small repairs made. to the rear corners of it.
The fastback looks cool but limits your rear passengers to ones that are fairly challenged in the height department.

The targa fabric is easily replaced, but worth noting is that the targa frame is prone to rotting. This can be replaced with a fibreglass version, but its not cheap! In any case the frame is simple enough to weld up and repair.

I drive mine all year round, it lives outdoors and winter ahs never been a problem. You just need a bit more care and thought with the maintenance of the weather-equipment thats all.

In terms of practicality, it ireally isn't practical if you will be getting gear in ond out of the rear tailgate which involves undoing a load of poppers and the whole thing is just poorly thought out.
If you can live with that then the open-top is easy to get on with.

Feel free to ask more questions about the convertible.


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01 Oct 2019 18:51 #214123 by Stewarthunt1
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Hi Scimike,
Thanks for the reply. I only really put it out there as there's a used Jimny dealership in the Cotswolds that won't touch the soft tops because of reliability and build quality associated with the Spanish soft tops.
These guys sowed the seed of doubt in my head
www.jimnysales.co.uk

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01 Oct 2019 18:54 #214124 by Max Headroom
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LOL

Where are you based Stewart?

You can come and take a look at mine if you like


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01 Oct 2019 18:54 #214125 by Stewarthunt1
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Hi Max,
Great reply thanks and just by coincidence I posted my Cotswold Jimney experience and noticed you just mentioned them.

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01 Oct 2019 18:57 #214127 by Stewarthunt1
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Forest Of Dean. Where are you?

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01 Oct 2019 18:58 - 01 Oct 2019 18:58 #214128 by Max Headroom
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I didnt care much for their attitude to be honest - maybe I spoke to the wrong person - I dont know - but it seemed very biased and unfair on the convertibe variant.

By the way, as Scimike says, the Convertibles were built in Andalucia in Spain

Im in Stow-On-The-Wold


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01 Oct 2019 19:10 #214133 by Stewarthunt1
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I must admit when I asked him did they use the same Suzuki parts for the build his reply was they didn't but with not much conviction.
Who knows and who cares its what you like in the end and I can't see Suzuki's Quality control allowing a poor standard even if built elsewhere.
Unless Im proven wrong. Stow-On-The-Wold Lovely part of the World. I lived in Yarnton Oxon and loved a motorbike ride out to Stow. Now were the other side in Glos. Do you ride yours Off road much?

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01 Oct 2019 19:23 #214135 by CC Baxter
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I've got a Spanish built Honda bike, people used to get sniffy about that too. Nobody cares anymore it's just an old bike. Many things gain credibility with age and the soft top Jimny is long overdue to be recognised for what it is, a cracking little vehicle.
Chris
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01 Oct 2019 19:26 #214136 by Stewarthunt1
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Me to. Montesa 4ride

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