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Re:Gen4 lift options and queries
17 Sep 2019 15:25 #213608
by Gadget
Gen4 lift options and queries was created by Gadget
Considering getting a 40-50mm lift on my Gen4, to add to the list of 'stuff I didn't need but bought because I like shiny things' (it's a long list) 
The only options I've seen for sale in the UK are the Trailmaster kit and more recently the Jimnybits one. Leaning towards JB as they include a new crossmember (I believe the standard xmember restricts front additional travel to 25mm). Anyone spotted other options in the UK?
First question is where do I get a kit like this fitted? I can do basic spannering, but think this it probably out of my league. Any recommendations on garages/specialists within a couple of hours of the SE?
The JB kit doesn't come with castor correction bushes. Am I right in thinking it's worth adding them if I want the best possible setup, regardless of it being 'only' a 50mm lift? JB have the superpro bushes listed, but it's unclear if they're Gen3 specific or suitable for both gens.
Any Gen3 owners with a black raptor lift kit installed? Wondering about the quality and if it's worth waiting for some of the Aus kits (OME, Tough Dog etc) to become available over here.
Ta
The only options I've seen for sale in the UK are the Trailmaster kit and more recently the Jimnybits one. Leaning towards JB as they include a new crossmember (I believe the standard xmember restricts front additional travel to 25mm). Anyone spotted other options in the UK?
First question is where do I get a kit like this fitted? I can do basic spannering, but think this it probably out of my league. Any recommendations on garages/specialists within a couple of hours of the SE?
The JB kit doesn't come with castor correction bushes. Am I right in thinking it's worth adding them if I want the best possible setup, regardless of it being 'only' a 50mm lift? JB have the superpro bushes listed, but it's unclear if they're Gen3 specific or suitable for both gens.
Any Gen3 owners with a black raptor lift kit installed? Wondering about the quality and if it's worth waiting for some of the Aus kits (OME, Tough Dog etc) to become available over here.
Ta
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17 Sep 2019 16:34 #213610
by DAGZOOK
Replied by DAGZOOK on topic Gen4 lift options and queries
I was under the impression that the caster correction bushes were only necessary if you've fitted tyres greater in width than the originals. The trail master kit looks top notch - I've seen countless members on this forum recommending the trail master kit for their gen.3's.
I recall seeing on the JB facebook page a post including images that said the gen.4 had really short vacuum and handbrake lines making even a 50mm lift a little close for comfort? I don't know whether this was rubbish, but it kind of killed the idea for me. I'd love to see it pulled off successfully, as always you're paving the way for all of us gadget!
I recall seeing on the JB facebook page a post including images that said the gen.4 had really short vacuum and handbrake lines making even a 50mm lift a little close for comfort? I don't know whether this was rubbish, but it kind of killed the idea for me. I'd love to see it pulled off successfully, as always you're paving the way for all of us gadget!
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17 Sep 2019 17:22 #213616
by Riccy
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
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Replied by Riccy on topic Gen4 lift options and queries
Castor correction bushes are nothing to do with tyre size im afraid Dagzook. They are to correct the angle the radius arms make the axle sit at rest. Currently your axle (and diff) will be vertical. Lifting the car will make the axles sit at slight angles (worse with more lift).
Having tried lifts with and without I would suggest that a 2" lift would not normally require the correction bushes. If you find the steering does not self-center as you would like, then add them in afterwards. Its pretty easy to take off the radius arms to fit the bushes, less easy to actually press out the old ones tho
The super-pro are poly bushes, which means a little firmer ride (especially if you do the arm to chassis bush as well). It can be done with just the ones on the axle and retain the standard rubber one to the chassis.
Ive no idea about the two kits for you mention Gadget, but the Jbits one sounds a better idea if the crossmember needs altering and I suspect that would be essential for any future further lift of the vehicle
Having tried lifts with and without I would suggest that a 2" lift would not normally require the correction bushes. If you find the steering does not self-center as you would like, then add them in afterwards. Its pretty easy to take off the radius arms to fit the bushes, less easy to actually press out the old ones tho
The super-pro are poly bushes, which means a little firmer ride (especially if you do the arm to chassis bush as well). It can be done with just the ones on the axle and retain the standard rubber one to the chassis.
Ive no idea about the two kits for you mention Gadget, but the Jbits one sounds a better idea if the crossmember needs altering and I suspect that would be essential for any future further lift of the vehicle
J999 MNY, ULYSSES M18 VVT with ITB's Dyno tested at 130hp
Pickup/tipper, R7me gearbox & 6.4 Rocklobster, 31" Toyo MT, 2x ARB air locker 3.9 diffs in braced axles, 6" total lift, Floating rear conversion, Raptor painted, CB, Recaro's, Caged, etc, etc...
www.youtube.com/user/riclemus
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17 Sep 2019 19:43 #213636
by Gadget
Replied by Gadget on topic Gen4 lift options and queries
I think I'll hold fire for now and wait for someone (like Martin!) to fit the Trailmaster kit and maybe go for that option if works out well
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26 Sep 2019 20:16 #213892
by Soeley
Black 2019 Jimny SZ5
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Replied by Soeley on topic Gen4 lift options and queries
I have also used Eibach lowering springs on my last car, they were very good. I see the ones you have linked are a small lift:
Front Lift Height: 20-25mm
Rear Lift Height: 15-20mm
I know some people have fitted 25mm spring spacers which would give the same result. According to the Jimnybits website 45mm lift is the max with standard hoses, so would have thought 25mm lift will be fine, Not sure how the headlight leveller will be affected with the LED headlights?
Front Lift Height: 20-25mm
Rear Lift Height: 15-20mm
I know some people have fitted 25mm spring spacers which would give the same result. According to the Jimnybits website 45mm lift is the max with standard hoses, so would have thought 25mm lift will be fine, Not sure how the headlight leveller will be affected with the LED headlights?
Black 2019 Jimny SZ5
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