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Hello and Gen 4 rear seatbelt question

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08 Mar 2019 19:17 #204317 by G-imny
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Hello,

I joined the forum in January after I picked up my new Jimmy


I thought it was about time I said hello and posted a topic. About ten years ago I had a 2005 Gen 3 which I really enjoyed so now really happy to be back in a Jimmy again and hopefully getting into some off-roading. Loving the forum and all you helpful people.

So my question concerning the rear seatbelts is that I have seen the Japanese spec cars have fully detachable seat belts where the belt can be unclipped from both seat fixing buckles and stored in clips on the rear pillars. This would be a really useful feature especially if you use the rear load mat like me.


Is it possible to order these parts and would they be legal in the UK?

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08 Mar 2019 19:28 - 08 Mar 2019 19:29 #204318 by jimnyfox
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I'd love to know the answer to this too. I was quite disappointed when I saw that the UK cars didn't have this feature. I wonder if it has anything to do with regulations regarding seatbelts in the UK.
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08 Mar 2019 19:37 #204319 by Lambert
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Welcome to the forum. I'd have thought it was ok as many vehicles use a similar principle for the centre rear seat on 5 seater cars. Don't take my word for it though as it is entirely possible I'm wrong.
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08 Mar 2019 19:54 #204321 by Scimike
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You would have to assume it's to meet UK regulations, after all why make two different designs, it cost more money and adds complexity to production. Also if you submitted to a UK MOT they are in the "detached" position, that's got to be a fail hasn't it? If installed they must work etc.
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08 Mar 2019 20:20 #204323 by Lambert
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That's why I mentioned the centre rear seat. On our Roomster the whole belt retracted into the roof leaving just the two buckles visible and you had to clip the single end in first and then the other moving one like a normal fixed belt. That never offended the mot as it was designed like it and worked as it should?
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08 Mar 2019 20:59 #204326 by G-imny
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I think the only current requirement is that the seatbelts have 3 points of attachment. I haven’t yet found anything saying they cannot be detachable or that only the middle rear seat beltscan be detachable (on cars with 3 rear seats).

If it’s not to do with type certification then it may just be on cost grounds that the detachable belts are not offered in UK. In the same way we don’t get the keyless entry, keyless start, wing mirror indicators etc.

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10 Mar 2019 13:59 #204384 by saxj
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Are you sure. This is how mine works...
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10 Mar 2019 14:52 #204389 by G-imny
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saxj wrote: Are you sure. This is how mine works...


Yes, I don’t have the extra detachable section.
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10 Mar 2019 15:18 #204392 by saxj
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G-imny wrote:

saxj wrote: Are you sure. This is how mine works...


Yes, I don’t have the extra detachable section.


That's daft. The seat belts really get in the way when loading the back

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10 Mar 2019 15:34 #204394 by G-imny
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I know! For some reason Suzuki seemed to think 85 litres in a tiny narrow space is more than enough and people in the UK aren’t going to put the seats down.

If I can find some part numbers for the fitting you have in SA, I’m going to try ordering some.

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10 Mar 2019 15:46 #204398 by saxj
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G-imny wrote: I know! For some reason Suzuki seemed to think 85 litres in a tiny narrow space is more than enough and people in the UK aren’t going to put the seats down.

If I can find some part numbers for the fitting you have in SA, I’m going to try ordering some.


This may help...
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10 Mar 2019 15:50 #204399 by G-imny
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Thank you saxj. Will see what I can find with those.

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