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Parkwood Nr. Leeds
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My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
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28 Jan 2019 07:18 #201898
by Lambert
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Ok so I weakened and went to have a play in a gen4 at Appleyard Canal Road.
No. Sorry.
Things I don't like.
You sit on it not in it, the seats are nasty.
Are we sure the 1.5 isn't a diesel? Very harsh and intrusive and quite a vibration on idle.
The boot space is ridiculous, my 10kg working cockerpoo wouldn't be able to wriggle round if the seats were up.
It's too tall and the tyres look too skinny almost like a crossply.
Collision avoidance, no.
Road sign repeats, no.
Auto headlights, clever but too sensitive.
Lane departure warning, no.
Things I like.
The ally wheels.
Sorry but you would need to take my dog hostage to get me to drive one of those daily.
No. Sorry.
Things I don't like.
You sit on it not in it, the seats are nasty.
Are we sure the 1.5 isn't a diesel? Very harsh and intrusive and quite a vibration on idle.
The boot space is ridiculous, my 10kg working cockerpoo wouldn't be able to wriggle round if the seats were up.
It's too tall and the tyres look too skinny almost like a crossply.
Collision avoidance, no.
Road sign repeats, no.
Auto headlights, clever but too sensitive.
Lane departure warning, no.
Things I like.
The ally wheels.
Sorry but you would need to take my dog hostage to get me to drive one of those daily.
Temeraire (2018 quasar grey automatic)
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28 Jan 2019 18:25 #201933
by SmallBlue
Replied by SmallBlue on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Seats are way better than my previous Jimny, engine sounds a little agricultural granted but goes well. It’s 80% more civilised on the road than previous model. Some gadgets are overkill but I’m made up with mine.
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28 Jan 2019 19:15 #201937
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
The seats compared to my old worn out ones would be better I'm sure but compared to my current recaros not even close. My m13 has nearly 90k on and is way way smoother and quieter than the 1.5 in their demonstration one. Again suspension wise the dead stuff I took off was way worse but compared to the Gucci stuff i have on now that offers supreme control...
Like I said I'm bias.
Like I said I'm bias.
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29 Jan 2019 02:43 #201973
by zukebob
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Replied by zukebob on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Your final take away is a little harsher than mine but I don't think you are being biased. I think it is more likely you developed an opinion going in with wide open eyes.
I was leaning a little to the negative side when I went to see one at the Philippine auto show. The result for me (from a slightly negative starting point) was that I didn't think it was as bad as I first thought. I think if someone with a positive opinion were to review it, and were totally objective, they would likely start to feel some disappointment.
An interesting read from the Auszookers forum:
Auszookers: New Jimny Pics page 3
While that thread needs to be kept in the context that most of their members have a universal dislike for Jimnys, the main point of page 3 still reflects what I see as unfortunate: in place of taking the opportunity to engineer and improve some areas, they decided to stick on a new body.
I was leaning a little to the negative side when I went to see one at the Philippine auto show. The result for me (from a slightly negative starting point) was that I didn't think it was as bad as I first thought. I think if someone with a positive opinion were to review it, and were totally objective, they would likely start to feel some disappointment.
An interesting read from the Auszookers forum:
Auszookers: New Jimny Pics page 3
While that thread needs to be kept in the context that most of their members have a universal dislike for Jimnys, the main point of page 3 still reflects what I see as unfortunate: in place of taking the opportunity to engineer and improve some areas, they decided to stick on a new body.
I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
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29 Jan 2019 05:32 #201977
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
The thing is that the gen4 is really a second iteration of the coil sprung Jimny and I'm with you on the comment about just sticking a new body on a lightly revised frame, yes it looks retro and yes there are limits to the available space in such a small vehicle but I honestly think that more effort could have been put to modernise and rectify some of the known chassis issues that on the face of it have been left alone. Why isn't it permanent 4x4, why do the king pins appear to be identical, why if it must be part time 4x4 are there still vacuum hubs and so on? It just could have been better.
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29 Jan 2019 05:44 #201978
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Oh and I know the answer to the above questions; cost benefit calculations, it's cheaper and more profitable for Suzuki to give it some gizmos to fall in with current market trends than it is to indulge in costly engineering that is of no benefit to an average 3 year owner, after all its a cheap car and when the warranty is up buy another.
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29 Jan 2019 06:17 #201980
by Gadget
Replied by Gadget on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
From my perspective the body was the main flaw of the gen3, as they're fugly 
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29 Jan 2019 06:31 #201982
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
It's easy to say that of any vehicle. I could just as easily say that the gen4 was drawn by a 5 year old with a ruler and a blunt crayon, it's all back to the bias I started this thread talking about. I happen to like jelly mould styling just as much as I do straight line retro.
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29 Jan 2019 06:51 #201985
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
The thing is I'm not trying to change anyone's mind. I'm just noting my opinion, as a 12 year veteran of the gen3, that for me the gen4 isn't all I hoped it could be.
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29 Jan 2019 06:58 #201988
by zukebob
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Replied by zukebob on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Amen.
And I don't see this forum ever leaning toward the other forum I mentioned with the old school folks insulting the new gen folks.
As I've mentioned, I would never trade my current Jimny to get a new model. If I didn't have a Jimny would I buy a new model? Probably.
And I don't see this forum ever leaning toward the other forum I mentioned with the old school folks insulting the new gen folks.
As I've mentioned, I would never trade my current Jimny to get a new model. If I didn't have a Jimny would I buy a new model? Probably.
I started out with nothing & still have most of it left
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29 Jan 2019 07:14 #201989
by Lambert
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Replied by Lambert on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Everyone is welcome here and is equally important regardless of the generation of Jimny and is entitled to their opinion. This is something I hold dear, but at the same time I will resist attempts to denigrate other or their vehicles or what they choose to do with or to them. We're all here for positive reasons and can all behave respectfully.
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29 Jan 2019 07:21 #201992
by zukebob
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Replied by zukebob on topic My completely bias and somewhat unhelpful review of the gen4.
Amen number 2
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