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Rear inner wheel arch liner?

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08 Oct 2018 18:36 #196565 by Speedboatsteve
Hello,

I’m new to the forum and recently purchased my first Jimny on a 2000 W plate which was an MOT failure. It had the common rust in the boot floor and that has now been fixed however there is also a lot of rust in both rear wheel arch’s, the front wheel arch’s have a plastic inner liner however the rear arch’s don’t, not on mine anyway.
Can anybody tell me if there should be plastic rear wheel arch liners? I can’t seem to find any online.

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08 Oct 2018 18:45 #196567 by jackonlyjack
I don't believe such a thing is available I have never seen one
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08 Oct 2018 19:04 #196569 by Speedboatsteve
Thanks, I will keep looking but if not, looks like plenty of Shultz once it’s patched up.

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08 Oct 2018 20:31 #196576 by Scimike
Second vote for no such thing. Also if you are feeling brave have a look at the front body mounts under the plastic liner, they hide another rot spot.
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09 Oct 2018 05:42 #196583 by yakuza
Replied by yakuza on topic Rear inner wheel arch liner?
Many liners only prevent washing. Fine dust that sticks to the surface and slowly grind away the rust preventive coating is the only thing that gets behind the liners. Liners also hold water in the sticky dust making the rust wet for longer periods.
If the owner wash the car more often on the underside, and top up the coating, it will most likely rust more slowly or not at all.

I don't wash too often sadly... :)
Not well enough at least..

2005 Jimny M16A VVT, 235 BFG MT, 2" Trailmaster, 17%/87% high/low gears.
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09 Oct 2018 06:25 #196586 by Speedboatsteve
Thanks for the heads up, I better check these body mounts too.

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09 Oct 2018 11:17 #196589 by mlines
Replied by mlines on topic Rear inner wheel arch liner?
There is no such thing as inner liners for the rear arches I am afraid.

Take a good look at the floor pan around the body mount by the front seat seatbelt points as this is another rust point. Then cover with something like the Buzzweld range of paints.

Martin - or perhaps speedboatmartin :)

Martin

2003 M13 early KAP build.
3" Trailmaster lift with 1.5 Spacers on front
Customised winch bumper and roll cage
235/85R16 Maxxis Bighorns on 16" Rims, 4:1 Rocklobster, Rear ARB locker and on-board air
Corrected arms all-round, rear disks, Recaro seats and harnesses

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12 Oct 2018 07:17 #196696 by kirkynut
In the main you don't want them. They hold in muck and moisture, leading to rust.

Cleaning and painting before rust is best.

Kirkynut

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12 Oct 2018 11:16 - 12 Oct 2018 11:32 #196702 by Scimike
I can't blame the plastic liners for Suzukis woefully inadequate rust protection, but they are an excuse used by most manufacturers not to protect the area behind further. If you can remember the days before wheel arch liners , i.e back in the 70's Hillman and early fords, the top of the wings was a mud trap and soon rotted through. Liners stopped this overnight. Imagine our Jimny's with the primer only under wing protection, how long do you think that will last!
I believe the front mount rot is not due to the liner, its poor seam sealing on the multi layer metal joint below the headlamp which also doubles as a water drain route. Poor design meets poor rust prevention equals rot spot. They are guilty however of hiding this rot spot until its too late to do anything.
I for one would keep the liners, I believe they offer more protection than running the vehicle without.
However it is a wise to remove them and rust proof underneath, also treat the mounts with wax at least once before the rot starts. If you do remove them I would suggest you need to add a protective coating under the wings or the vacuum tank (switch 4x4) and wing tops / A pillar will be your new rot spots.
Of course just in my humble opinion.
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12 Oct 2018 13:35 #196707 by kirkynut
I think if you prepare these areas before they rust and wash them out regularly to stop muck building up you are best off, however, this best situation means you must do both and relies upon you to do so.

It would be nice if you only had to do the washing off because the manufacturer had prepared it and rust proofed it first.

When you do the type of off roading I've historically done, you do not want wheel arch liners as they will get full if mud behind, which will stay wet for a long time and cause rust. Muddy water gets in everywhere but only the water comes back out!

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20 Oct 2018 07:57 #196892 by Speedboatsteve
Thanks everyone for the replies.

Sadly I think I am way past the point of preventing the rust however your input has given me places to look so I can treat it.
My Jimny is 20 years old and the last owner lived right by the coast so you can imagine the extent of the rust. That said I'm not giving up, I've been away, hence my delay in my reply and I'm now eager to get started again.

Right, time to crack on. :)

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