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05 Feb 2018 09:11 #189104 by Ruedeleglise
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Hi there. After a couple of months with my Jimny I recon I am getting to know her, her good and bad habits! I have been up to the axels in mud and water and been where a Toyota utility and even a Defender got stuck. What I would like an opinion on is the use of wax oil. I used some 40 years ago to inject it and thouroughly smother the underparts , nooks and crannies of my cars. What is recommended and your opinion now?

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05 Feb 2018 10:09 #189105 by Lambert
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Topping up or starting with an older ca4 I would be using waxoyle or dinitrol or similar. Starting with a new car I would be on with buzzweld,.

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05 Feb 2018 10:55 #189106 by Ruedeleglise
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Thanks. Mine is 3yrs old and was used previously as a shopping trolley.....only 13000 miles. Never heard of Buzzweld....presume Halfords?

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05 Feb 2018 12:09 #189108 by Lambert
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No , buzzweld is a direct from the supplier thing. They have lots of different types of paintable finishes for different applications. Google them.

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06 Feb 2018 20:19 #189145 by helijohn
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Ruedeleglise wrote: What I would like an opinion on is the use of wax oil. I used some 40 years ago to inject it and thouroughly smother the underparts , nooks and crannies of my cars. What is recommended and your opinion now?

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Waxoyl all the way.

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06 Feb 2018 21:33 #189148 by kirkynut
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Now I'm not a fan of Wayoyl. It can trap moisture under it in pockets, especially if there was already a little rust you didn't know about, albeit a good side brushing ought to be done first.

I'm much more a fan of a proper paint and personally use Hamerite, topping up with fresh coats as required.

I'm not experienced with buzzweld but believe it to be better.

Cavities I believe are best treated in road cars with old engine oil, however, not on a car that will go through Fords or other water and leave a rainbow effect in its wake! Not good for ze fishes!

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07 Feb 2018 19:31 #189162 by rappey
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Ive experimented with many anti rust products while trying to keep rust at bay on a 72 yr old ship.
Hammerite was the clear winner over fertan, rustoleum and a whole other range of anti rust products.. but a few years back they removed whatever hammerite had that made it so good (lowering voc content of paints) and now its not that great.. Never waste your time using red oxide, and oil based undercoat is better than red oxide.. I really dont know why anyone even bothers to make that crap !
Best on rusty steel is real red lead paint by a long way, but the hard bit is finding the stuff, and no it has never been banned...
Waxoyle is supposed to repair itself when a stone takes a chunk off by slowly flowing and resealing... any good? couldnt say !
what about basic black underseal? Great for painting on welds as it hides the appaling bodge job underneath..lol

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07 Feb 2018 22:12 #189167 by helijohn
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rappey wrote: what about basic black underseal? Great for painting on welds as it hides the appaling bodge job underneath..lol


Yes for floor panel sections. rockers and the like I use the Hammerite underseal with added Waxoyl but on my Celerio, being a new car, I went with Tetroseal as it has a claim to have excellent sound deadening qualities which believe me the Celerio needed and I found to be very effective.There was just about no protection underneath and in key areas elsewhere so every little stone sounded like a marble in a biscuit tin. Suzuki should be ashamed of themselves. .

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08 Feb 2018 10:50 - 08 Feb 2018 10:51 #189178 by yakuza
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lots of salty roads and winter with large temperature variations where i come from.
Most important in my opinion is that the car is clean and dry when you put your favorite stuff under there. And also repeat the process and check for wear once every couple of years or so. Clean your car often and do this and it will last.
All carbon steel will sooner or later rust and return to the nature so it depends on the maintenance how long it will last.

linseed oil, lanolin, tectyl, dinitrol and so on, many products and most of them is ok.

On a new car i would use the thicker stuff, and on an older car more thin and penetrating products.

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11 Feb 2018 03:29 #189250 by kirkynut
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Lanolin is supposed to be the bee's knees but try to find it and then once you do it's very expensive!

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11 Feb 2018 04:23 #189254 by Lambert
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I have tonnes of the stuff. It's a bit raw and doesn't tend to appreciate being introduced to vehicles, but I do have lots of it.

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13 Feb 2018 08:14 #189310 by yakuza
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Lambert wrote: I have tonnes of the stuff. It's a bit raw and doesn't tend to appreciate being introduced to vehicles, but I do have lots of it.


Some do not like the smell of it..

Friend of mine built some extremely large speakers and found some info about sheep wool having the best sound dampening quality.
Filled the speakers with the white stuff. Ready built speakers for testing, and turned the volume up high with the woofers pumping air thru all the ports and channels inside the speakers.
After a while the room smelled just like a sheep farm. I like the smell as i grew up on a small sheep farm but my friend did not :)

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